Misery Loves Company

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2012/08/31 21:51:29 (permalink)

Misery Loves Company

Friends, I haven't been around much lately, but in my absence I continue to annoy the neighbors by practicing with the windows open. Those of you who know me know that I usually write fiction, but this one is based upon a true story. Steph and I had a spat, which is really rare, and made up quickly. While making up, I made a wry comment and she laughed: "There has to be a song there somewhere." My eyes lit up and within 48 hours I had the whole thing worked out in my head. Of course I had to learn the parts before I could record them, especially as I was moved to rely upon keyboards for half the rhythm section. For the first time ever, I did not do a rhythm guitar track, although there is a lead. Actually, I DID do one, but it clashed with the organ. Great idea if I were a good keys man, but I'm a rank novice. So here it is, I hope you like it, but if you don't, tell me why. How's the mix? Simplest mix I've done, it SHOULD be easy, right? I mean, drums, bass, organ, piano, vocal. How hard can that be to mix? But I'll rely upon the judgment of my peers, and betters. http://soundclick.com/share.cfm?id=11865517 Thanks for the use of your ears. Mark

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    ABeautifulVirus
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    Re:Misery Loves Company 2012/08/31 22:28:29 (permalink)
    hey this is a cool blues joint bro. dig the classic 7th chords and cadences and overall feel of the tune. neat story on the genesis of lyrics as well.
    one thing i am noticing in headphones is a lot of 'clicking' noise that seems to happen throughout duration of song...like hitting a mic or foot tapping the floor that is reverberating up a mic stand, or it is some type of digital clip going on.  see if you can hear what i'm hearing. i'm listening on a set of dt 770s. 

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    Re:Misery Loves Company 2012/08/31 23:54:51 (permalink)
    Mark, tonight has been an emotional night... Based on a number of other things.  I enjoyed your blues tune... I could make every part of it better? But I enjoyed every part of it :-) So there it is.
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    Re:Misery Loves Company 2012/09/01 00:54:02 (permalink)
    Nice smokey tune, Mark.
    I also hear the clicks Virus mentioned, actually to the point of distraction.
    It does sound like digital clipping, cumulative, not associated with a particular track.
    Check your master levels.
    Do you have Voxengo SPAN? It's great for pinpointing problems like this.
    It sounds like all of the tracks may be a wee bit hot, and you may be piling up around 5K.
    A little fine tuning with some EQ, and maybe dial the individual tracks down a bit, and you can slide this one home.

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    Re:Misery Loves Company 2012/09/01 13:20:15 (permalink)
    Mark, I love down home blues, and you really did some good, old fashioned home cooking on this.  As others have mentioned, I hear the clicking sound which I associated with the bass drum for some reason.  A clicky foot pedal?  I didn't hear the tracks as being too hot, necessarily.  In fact, I thought the overall sound was a bit thin.  A  nice, warm compressor or limiter might help with this on the lead guitar track and vocal.  Still, it's good home cooking and tasty, just needs a little zing.

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    Re:Misery Loves Company 2012/09/01 16:45:53 (permalink)
     Thanks, Virus, I'm glad you like it. I had to retrack the bass, found some clicking and static going on there, but apparently it still exists. More on that later. Thanks for the feedback.

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    Re:Misery Loves Company 2012/09/01 16:48:14 (permalink)
     Band, I too feel confident you could do it better. I'm no pro. And I just started learning keys in January. I'm merely a singing guitarist whose reach exceeds his grasp. But maybe you could be more specific.........thanks

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    Re:Misery Loves Company 2012/09/01 16:53:42 (permalink)
     Robert, thanks for being specific. Actually, I kept the levels fairly low in mixing, and the master bus doesn't clip EXCEPT for the plosives and sibilants in the vocal track, specifically "t". I'll try retracking it and maybe dig up an onboard de-esser. Thanks for the advice. About the pileup around 5k: that's why I kept out the rhythm guitar track: a serious frequency clash. I suspect there's a little of that still going on between the piano and organ, might be able to EQ it out.

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    Re:Misery Loves Company 2012/09/01 17:01:21 (permalink)
    Lynn, thanks for listening. I don't I think it's the bass drum, as I use Jammer Pro to generating drums. But I think it's a good enough song to fix it. However, about the zing...well, a better keys player could provide that. My piano skills are very rudimentary. Iappreciate the comments, thanks. Mark

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    Re:Misery Loves Company 2012/09/01 17:35:32 (permalink)
    I hate it when things clash with my organ...
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    Re:Misery Loves Company 2012/09/02 10:28:14 (permalink)
    Now thats how you write/play the Blues. LOVED your guitar solo.  KUIDOS!

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    Re:Misery Loves Company 2012/09/02 11:44:43 (permalink)
    I love these 48 hour songs. Back in the late 80s I had a fully baked 9 hour song.

    Thanks for sharing.

    My only crit is the whole thing sounds a bit too compressed. Probably a personal taste thing so take it with a grain of salt.
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    Re:Misery Loves Company 2012/09/02 21:45:38 (permalink)
    LYNN: I take it back. After retracking the vocal and isolating the kick...well, you were right and I'm man enough to admit it. The kick IS clicking. It being midi, I have no idea how to correct it. Any ideas?

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    Re:Misery Loves Company 2012/09/02 21:47:00 (permalink)
     Thanks, Kev. I thought the lead was tastefully restrained. Usually I try to play too many notes. Glad you liked it.

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    Re:Misery Loves Company 2012/09/02 21:50:30 (permalink)
     Ed, a man of your skills can casually knock off a song on your lunch break, or even while sleeping, although I imagine that annoys your wife a bit. It usually takes me weeks to flesh out a tune. By the way, I've been accused of overcompression before; if I keep trying I might get it right one day.

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    Re:Misery Loves Company 2012/09/03 10:57:38 (permalink)
    You can always replace the bass drum with another sample.  Is Session Drummer part of Home Studio?  If not, you may want to google bass drum samples, as there are a ton of freebies out there.  Or, isolate the frequency of the click and notch it out with a parametric EQ.  Many great recordings have had a clicky bass pedal, so you're in good company.  Best of luck.
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    LYNN: I take it back. After retracking the vocal and isolating the kick...well, you were right and I'm man enough to admit it. The kick IS clicking. It being midi, I have no idea how to correct it. Any ideas?



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    Re:Misery Loves Company 2012/09/03 22:33:59 (permalink)
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    LYNN: I take it back. After retracking the vocal and isolating the kick...well, you were right and I'm man enough to admit it. The kick IS clicking. It being midi, I have no idea how to correct it. Any ideas?

    Mark, you can adjust the kick volume level in the SD2 GUI.
    How are you triggering the drums?



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    Re:Misery Loves Company 2012/09/04 11:35:14 (permalink)
    Robert, I generate drums with Jammer Pro. When I remixed it, I did in fact lower the kick volume. It helped, but the kick still sounds clicky. But, really, most of my friends and family will never notice. Thanks for the use of your ears.

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    Re:Misery Loves Company 2012/09/04 12:17:19 (permalink)
    good job on the song... put the pain into music.... that's what the blues are all about. 

    keep annoying those neighbors..... in a nice kinda bluesy way..... 


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    Re:Misery Loves Company 2012/09/04 12:41:49 (permalink)
    Jim loves Misery loves Company.
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    Re:Misery Loves Company 2012/09/04 19:38:34 (permalink)
    I enjoyed the feel of this song a bunch, Mark.  I couldn't figure out what was sounding wrong to me.  It sounds thin or something and I think Ed might have called it.  Compression?  I don't know it has the feeling of a 60s recording to me and I liked that.  Loved the back story so it's a kiss and makeup song, not a hit and run tune.  Hey the keys sound like you've been doing it a while.  No one could do it as good as Robby, we all know that, but you did fine.  :-)

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    Re:Misery Loves Company 2012/09/04 21:25:45 (permalink)
    Very cool song Mark... great lyrics, solid delivery...
    well done...
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    Re:Misery Loves Company 2012/09/07 15:32:43 (permalink)
    nice one.. great song. good playing & singing


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    Re:Misery Loves Company 2012/09/07 21:30:04 (permalink)
    Herb, Jim, Warren, Frank, Makke - thanks for the comments, friends. Praise from such an august group is very encouraging.

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    Re:Misery Loves Company 2012/09/09 22:28:14 (permalink)
    Hey, this is nice.  Glad you got over it quickly and got a song out of it to boot. :)  Nice bluesy blues.  Interesting chords and melody...I like it.

    And how hard can it be to mix?  I can mess up a piano solo.  lol
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    Re:Misery Loves Company 2012/09/10 18:50:20 (permalink)
    What I like best about this is that it sounds like an old recording. I don't know if that's deliberate or not, but it suits it well.
    I can easily imagine a band playing this in a smoky roadhouse type bar, if such a thing still exists.
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    Re:Misery Loves Company 2012/09/13 21:44:52 (permalink)
     Thanks, Janet. Sure, we always get over it quick. Eighteen years together, and we get along pretty darn well. Your last comment made me laugh.

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    Re:Misery Loves Company 2012/09/13 21:47:10 (permalink)
     Paulo, glad you like it. It's not really intentional, but everything I do sounds old. Maybe it's because I'm old. I almost always get a comment about how 60s my stuff sounds. Really, it's because I've never learned to mix well, I suppose.

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    Re:Misery Loves Company 2012/09/15 04:33:36 (permalink)
    Hey, Mark,
     
    Very nice job on this cool sounding vintage blues number!
     
    Great lyrics and vocals, cool keys and a clean, very tasty blues guitar solo.  I'm with Tim about the authentic sounding vintage mix, and being able to picture this being played by a band in a smoky lounge someplace.
     
    Great stuff, Mark, have a dynamite weekend, buddy!
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    Re:Misery Loves Company 2012/09/16 12:44:45 (permalink)
    Hey, thanks Bob! I'm nothing if not vintage! I appreciate the comments. I was pretty happy with the guitar solo too. I tried to get a buddy to do a sax solo there, but he has no way to mic his sax into a computer (and he has a version of Sonar too!) So I had to improvise. Glad you like it.

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