Can you listen to music while trying to focus on other things?

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2012/09/01 17:45:27 (permalink)

Can you listen to music while trying to focus on other things?

I can't even read a book while listening to tunes anymore because my mind gets drawn away to dissecting the composition or production values. I still very much enjoy listening to tunes but unless I'm doing something mindless like folding socks or doing dishes it's impossible for me to focus. Any of you guys suffer from this?
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    bapu
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    Re:Can you listen to music while trying to focus on other things? 2012/09/01 17:47:52 (permalink)
    What are these "other things" you speak of and how can I avoid them entirely?
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    Re:Can you listen to music while trying to focus on other things? 2012/09/01 17:52:13 (permalink)
    Step one: Get really really rich. Step two: Lock yourself in a room that has a toilet and a door with a food slot so your servants can just shove bowls of gruel in with a stick.
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    Re:Can you listen to music while trying to focus on other things? 2012/09/01 17:53:03 (permalink)
    Absolutely. Though there are exceptions to the rule. 

    Like listening to Mozart while reading German philosophers. Don't ask me why but that works for me. 

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    Re:Can you listen to music while trying to focus on other things? 2012/09/01 18:01:01 (permalink)
    Yeah... classical isn't as bad at distracting me as other music but I think that will change if I follow my plan to study it at a conservatory level.
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    Re:Can you listen to music while trying to focus on other things? 2012/09/01 18:02:19 (permalink)
    No, not if you want to listen to music seriously. It depends on what you are trying to do of course. If you want music on in the back ground while you are doing something else then that is great and it works but there is a serious lost art in the method of listening to music.

    You see being older I have come from an analog turntable background. I used to be in a Hi Fi club as well where we got into serious listening sessions. As we did not even want to drop the stylus midway in any part of the record (causes damage or a click) we used to listen to whole sides of albums from start to finish, the way they were meant to be.

    What I found is that after a while you sort of go into a semi dream state of consciousness and your ears really open up and you start to hear details in the music that you thought were never there. This is totally lost art and people just do not do it today. For various reasons. People don't have time to sit down and really listen to any music any more. Pity, shame. Also modern technology has allowed the music to go anywhere now whereas before the turntable was it and you could not move that baby around too much. Hence we were forced to sit in front of it and listen to it and the whole thing too, not just a track here and there. 

    What is interesting about this is that many a complex mix will impress you and you may wonder how they get it all to work together so well. But because you will never really sit down long enough to really listen to something properly, you will never fully understand what is really going on inside a mix unless you put some serious listening time into it. People expect to hear the first 30 seconds of a complex mix and expect to suss it all out. Sorry no go. You may have to listen to a track many times in full to even come close to working out what is really going on.

    It is a lost art and forgotten skill and there is no reason why one cannot do it today even with CD's etc. In fact with CD's it is better because you can hear the whole thing now without turning records over.

    When you go to a concert you have to sit through at least an hour before the break and straight through usually as well. You have to do it there so why not do it at home as well. 

    It is hard because have you ever tried to do something like meditate for an hour in a completely uninterrupted state. You wont go 5 minutes before a family member interrupts you or a mobile or phone will go off. I have to go to great lengths to remove all form of communication into my house. Phones off, mobiles off, bells turned way down or off so I don't hear any phone rings. And then there are the people who come to the door trying to sell you energy or something!

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    Re:Can you listen to music while trying to focus on other things? 2012/09/01 18:03:43 (permalink)
    Apparently Daryl1968 can text, email and lay down vocals all at the same time. I'm witnessing it in real time.
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    Re:Can you listen to music while trying to focus on other things? 2012/09/01 18:08:53 (permalink)
    I use to listen to music as Jeff describes above. I don't anymore except on a more clinical level in the studio. It's more studying than listening though. Actually, listening or hearing music anywhere but my studio is pretty annoying to me. Well, I mean accept for the songs forum.....

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    Re:Can you listen to music while trying to focus on other things? 2012/09/01 18:11:13 (permalink)
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    Yeah... classical isn't as bad at distracting me as other music but I think that will change if I follow my plan to study it at a conservatory level.

    Indeed. That's one of the reasons it works for me - even though I did study classical music, it still eludes me. If I had a tighter grasp on it, no doubt it'd distract me.


    Reminds me of when I used to live w/ that amazingly talented guitar player. There was the obvious friendly competition. He'd played guitar for only 3 years - self taught - but blew me and my 15 years of experience/classical lessons/jazz education out of the water w/ 2 or 3 notes. Man that kid could play... Never understood what it was that he liked about my playing.


    Anyway, the only time I used to get a break was when he played slide guitar - that was outside anything I could hope to replicate or understand. When I felt blue for whatever reason, I'd just ask him to grab the slide play some of that stuff for me. 
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    Re:Can you listen to music while trying to focus on other things? 2012/09/01 18:18:20 (permalink)
    @Rain... As someone who used to be a weirdo whizkid I know why he would be into what you were doing. It's the whole "I can DO but I don't know WHY". I'd get drawn to more educated musicians who would give me quizzical looks as to why I was harassing them. I just wanted to learn... and learn I did.
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    Re:Can you listen to music while trying to focus on other things? 2012/09/01 18:20:31 (permalink)
    I have some tinnitus so am not a big fan of absolute silence. However like you I cannot concentrate on something and listen to music, for example when I am doing my accounts at the weekend. So what I do instead is have ambient sounds running. There's a decent freeware app for Windows called Aire Freshener which does the job. 
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    Re:Can you listen to music while trying to focus on other things? 2012/09/01 18:25:41 (permalink)
    Yeah... I need white noise or I go apedoodles. There is a fan going here pretty much non stop to block out the little squeaks and bumps of life.
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    Re:Can you listen to music while trying to focus on other things? 2012/09/01 18:32:08 (permalink)
    Hi,

    Not anymore, although I admit that a lot of music was, and IS, one of my highest inspirations fo rmany things that I write ... but folks will have to go look and figure out which piece is behind it ... because I ain't tellin' and I can't remember!

    All in all, these days, I prefer the quietness so I can describe my inner movie with more attention and concentration. In that sense, in the earlier days I was much more innovative and free form than I am today ... but the wildness and the total lack of respect for "composition" and "ideas" about composition in writing, have always been with me, and probably come from the "Surrealistic Manifesto", the one thing that I resemble the most I think! And appreciate the most, as it is one of the most complete artistic definitions of a process that has ever been defined. Hint ... there is no definition!

    I knew early on from Opera that the words did not necessarily represent the music or vice versa ... and rock music in its history has been married to an unfaithfull witch that couldn't careless (how romantic that is!!!), which made that whole thing better for attitude and feeling, but worse for music ... because most of it was anti-music in the first place ... if you wanted to express yourself, you didn't need the music because it was just in the bottom!

    But there is a lot of music, that lives up to its beauty and then some and deserves the title of inspiring, and no, I can not listen to Tales from Topographic Oceans at work ... or Tangerine Dream ... or Klaus Schulze ... because they will take me away, as they should! I don't even like to play these in the car while driving ... because your head wants to trip ... and you have to concentrate on the road and such!

    I am not writing as much as I used to ... I think that I am either bored, or things are changing ... which is more likely, since I am working on a couple of novels, and surprisingly enough they are "smooth" for me in terms of writing in that when I read it later, the only things I can find is a comma here, a mis-spelled word there ... and little else ... which suggests that I am fairly good at just folloing the movie regardless of its speed!

    That "movie" by the way, is where I write from ... and it has nothing to do with anything else ... just what I see ... and what triggers it can be just about anything you can think off. I have two poems written for Julibee, and that one piece of music I heard, that I still do  not know the title of ... but I'm too shy to post is, and I do not want to embarass her, and people getting stupid ideas that are not there! It was just about the voice. Only one other person has EVER grabbed me with her voice that fast and that well ... Sandy Denny ... (well, actually two of them!) and Gilly Smith (Gong). The rest, for me, is just another song instead of a movie!

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    Re:Can you listen to music while trying to focus on other things? 2012/09/01 20:01:30 (permalink)
    In the case of a crowded office environment, listening to music is not only not distracting, it can be a necessity for tuning out all the other distractions.  My job is far from mindless ... I do software engineering tasks of various kinds all day long.  If I have to listen to someone else's conversations, it just blows my concentration totally away and I cannot work, period.  But anything from Bach to Verdi on the headphones keeps the noise nicely out of my head.  Some things need to be avoided, particularly anything with English words.  Of course, I do miss the occassional phone call because I don't hear the phone ringing ... but folks have learned to just send me emails.
     
    Funny thing about serious listening, though.  I know several conductors of national/international repute.  Michael Morgan, conductor of the Oakland East Bay Symphony, doesn't have a CD player in his home.  Nic McGegan is the conductor and musical director of the Baroque Philharmonia Orchestra.  I was at his house once for a social event.  No music on in the background, which would be unthinkable in most "party" situations.  But for someone so dedicated, I guess there's no such thing as casual listening.  To people like that, if you cannot give it your full attention, you shouldn't listen in the first place.
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    Re:Can you listen to music while trying to focus on other things? 2012/09/01 20:11:37 (permalink)
    What was the question? The TV was on and um... what? 

    Yes I can read etc with music on but I couldn't do it with ear buds or headphones, background music... no problem. Trying to read my Kindle in an office waiting room with some silly show on the TV that has showed up lately in almost every waiting room is more distracting because I usually get mad about some nonsense they are talking about (I am already irritated by the mere presence of the TV in the waiting room). Yes, I am an old fart who is getting more and more intolerant and more likely every day to answer a rhetorical question with what I really think.. but I digress. In a nutshell, low background music, no problem. TV.. problem.

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    Re:Can you listen to music while trying to focus on other things? 2012/09/01 20:32:34 (permalink)
    Can't.  Not since I were a lad.

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    Re:Can you listen to music while trying to focus on other things? 2012/09/01 20:51:20 (permalink)
    Well it's good to know I'm not a complete spazz. I just get sucked so far down into music these days everything else disappears. Then when I re-emerge after whatever I'm listening to finishes I look at the time and think "Oh crud... I did it again. Whoops."
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    Re:Can you listen to music while trying to focus on other things? 2012/09/01 22:44:59 (permalink)
    I'm ADHD, I have to have multiple things going on.  I've been known to have a football game on the TV with the sound off, music on, have the computer up and running while reading a book and eating all at the same time.  Oh well.

     
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    Re:Can you listen to music while trying to focus on other things? 2012/09/01 23:01:39 (permalink)
    there is a background  music and there is a a foreground music.  With the former I can do other things like have a sex or read a book - with latter I can run and listen.
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