Record Last Take Question

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2012/09/05 04:37:41 (permalink)

Record Last Take Question

HI All
 
I was watching something to do with Logic Pro a while back,and I noticed it had a cool feature and I wondered
if Sonar had anything similar.
 
I don't know if the title is correct but if you are playing say a guitar over backings,and played
something fantastic but forgot to press record,no problem.
 
Just select Record Last Take,and magically what you just played is there as if you Had
pressed record.
 
Hope I said that right.
 
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    Re:Record Last Take Question 2012/09/05 08:28:09 (permalink)
    no, that makes no sense.  how can any software record something if you didn't record it?

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    Re:Record Last Take Question 2012/09/05 08:46:27 (permalink)
    @Beagle I think its possible but not sure of the benefit. I just hit record while I practice and if I do something I like I keep it if not Ctrl-Z rewind and start over.

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    Re:Record Last Take Question 2012/09/05 08:54:00 (permalink)
    It is possible,but I could not explain how it's done.

    If you doubt it is possible just google - Capture Last Take as Recording
    and read the many explanations.

    It's not instead of pressing record,it's in case you didn't press record because maybe
    you were trying something different,and it worked so well you wish you had done.

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    Re:Record Last Take Question 2012/09/05 09:17:35 (permalink)
    I can see how this would be possible..... since DVR's do this all the time. I work in the closed circuit tv/ security biz and the DVR is essentially recording everything that comes through the cameras but... it drops the data if it doesn't get notice to "keep it" from an event trigger after a certain period of time.  Generally under 60 seconds. This allows us to capture to disk, the time before an event occurs so the action is continuous rather than jumping in to the middle of the event. 

    In an audio recorder... there would have to be a time limit too or the hard drive would fill up quickly. It would require a fairly large temporary buffer to hold the various takes.... 

    I'm pretty sure Sonar doesn't even come close to being able to do this.  (99.999999%) The closest thing would be the loop recording function.....which I don't use or know much about either...other than I think Sonar has it. 

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    Re:Record Last Take Question 2012/09/05 09:38:44 (permalink)
    Yes it is possible and I could see this as a benefit. Just as guitarhack says, DVR's do it all the time. Hell my Tivo keeps a 30min buffer all the time. I could see software doing the same thing.

    Here's how to do it:

    The DAW would always keep a (pre-determined size in MB) buffer from the sound cards input. Press play and it starts to write to the buffer. When you hit stop, the buffer is kept with all the info on it. However, the moment you press play, the buffer is over-written with new info and keeps all info until you press stop or it reaches the size limit. Repeat endlessly.

    Select Options/Keep Buffer.

    There ya go!

    [edit]
    Forgot to answer original question!

    No Sonar does nothing close to this.

    Workaround?
    Always keep your trk armed! Always press R!

    : )

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    Re:Record Last Take Question 2012/09/05 09:54:24 (permalink)
    Well I'm glad someone else can see it can be done,as for being useful,well

    it's one of those features that when you don't have it,it doesn't seem useful,but

    when you do have it you wonder how you ever managed without it.

    Wonder if it might be put on the wish list for inclusion in the next recipie?

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    Re:Record Last Take Question 2012/09/05 09:59:50 (permalink)
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    Wonder if it might be put on the wish list for inclusion in the next recipie?

    Alan

    Oh God No!! What problems would that introduce? Fix the problems they have now and stop with the "a ton of added features!!"

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    Re:Record Last Take Question 2012/09/05 11:02:11 (permalink)
    Cubase has that feature too, so SOMEBODY likes the idea, including you and me. With Cubase, I think the amount of buffer is configurable (how many notes back to save). Since they are only saving midi events, doesn't take up a whole lot of memory.

    Would be nice in Sonar. I've tried just having sonar just constantly in record mode while I try things; if I don't like anything, I don't save it. It kind of works, but I think a "backtrack buffer" would be better for creative work flow. Here's hoping for the future.


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    Re:Record Last Take Question 2012/09/05 14:25:26 (permalink)
    ok - so it's feasible to be able to be done. 


    personally I don't see the benefit.  I can press the record button when I'm ready to record even if I'm wanting to record my practice takes.

    plus - it seems like it would waste a lot of disk space with "non-recorded tracks"

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    Re:Record Last Take Question 2012/09/05 14:42:26 (permalink)
    Hi beagle
    There is no wasted disc space.

    If the take you just played is not used as a take,it is overwritten by the next take,or discarded if not used.

    I usually rehearse a take before pressing record,even though I have the track armed.
    I think it would be useful to have this as an option,no-one is saying it should replace the usual way each individual likes to work.

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    Re:Record Last Take Question 2012/09/05 14:50:21 (permalink)
    I understand that would be the ideal way to do it.


    but knowing sonar's function of "clean audio files" where it searches the entire hard drive for 'orphaned' files - I'm not sure sonar's disk management capabilities wouldn't have to be completely re-worked before it could be implemented in that manner. 

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