Display of chords in piano roll

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2012/09/09 04:04:31 (permalink)

Display of chords in piano roll

I would like to know if there is a way to bring a chord shortcut in the piano roll view .Major ,minor ,sustained ,augmented ,ect. I find that in another DAW this is an option and helps with creative flow .
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    satyatunes
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    Re:Display of chords in piano roll 2012/09/09 08:31:45 (permalink)
    I have setup my own actions in Reaper and this helps immensely. I would also like to know if this is possible in Sonar X1.
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    Re:Display of chords in piano roll 2012/09/09 08:39:51 (permalink)
    I'd love too see something like this as well.

    You can probably do it via the CAL scripting but I've never looked into how that works.

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    Re:Display of chords in piano roll 2012/09/09 08:42:45 (permalink)

    can you explain a bit more what you're after, because I don't understand 
    maybe give some examples?

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    Re:Display of chords in piano roll 2012/09/09 08:46:45 (permalink)
    Hmmm... Creating chords with one click. That would be nice in many situations.

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    Re:Display of chords in piano roll 2012/09/09 08:52:52 (permalink)
    Kalle Rantaaho


    Hmmm... Creating chords with one click. That would be nice in many situations.


    ah! but.. this you can do! :)

    there are CAL-programs to create different chords from one note. And it's possible to create shortcuts to execute CALs :)

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    Re:Display of chords in piano roll 2012/09/09 08:56:06 (permalink)
    Loptec

    can you explain a bit more what you're after, because I don't understand 
    maybe give some examples?
    Ok, here is an example, in Reaper I can create an action for major chords and assign it to a button. Then in Piano roll, I click the button, then I drag to create a note lets say C, it will create two more notes i.e. E and G to create C major chord. Similarly, I can create actions for minor, dim, aug and so on... It's very helpful, if you just want to lay down some chords quickly using mouse. May be when away from your controller keyboard, etc.


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    Re:Display of chords in piano roll 2012/09/09 08:57:16 (permalink)
    Found it.. this is how you do it in X1:

    in Piano roll view, create the root note (e.g. C)
    then press Ctrl + F1, it will show the CAL scripts
    double click Major Chord.cal.. voila.. now you have a C major chords...

    there are some more available as well like Dominant 7th, Minor chords, etc. Nice.
    post edited by satyatunes - 2012/09/09 09:10:39
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    Re:Display of chords in piano roll 2012/09/09 09:11:28 (permalink)
    satyatunes


    Please provide some examples as to which CAL and how to run, etc. Sorry, I haven't touched upon CAL at all.
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    Kalle Rantaaho


    Hmmm... Creating chords with one click. That would be nice in many situations.


    ah! but.. this you can do! :)

    there are CAL-programs to create different chords from one note. And it's possible to create shortcuts to execute CALs :)



    ok! :)
    try this:

    • go into the PRV and draw a C-note.
    • select the note and choose process->run CAL... (Ctrl+F1)
    • in the window that pops up choose (for example) Minor Chord.cal and klick OK
    • you'll now see that a minor C chord has been created in the PRV

    I don't know if you know how to create a shortcut, so.. Here we go:

    You can create a shortcut for the Minor Chord.cal by going to preferences (advanced mode)

    • Go to "Keyboard Shortcuts"
    • In the search field write CAL and find the Minor Chord.cal in the list.
    • Press "locate key" and type the shortcut you want to use for this CAL (let's say Ctrl+E) 
    • Select Minor Chord.cal in the list and click "bind"
    • You now only have to select a not and press Ctrl+E to create a minor chord from a note



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    Re:Display of chords in piano roll 2012/09/09 09:12:29 (permalink)
    satyatunes


    Found it.. this is how you do it in X1:

    in Piano roll view, create the root note (e.g. C)
    then press Ctrl + F1, it will show the CAL scripts
    double click Major Chord.cal.. voila.. now you have a C major chords...

    there are some more available as well like Dominant 7th, Minor chords, etc. Nice.

    *thumbs up* :)

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    Re:Display of chords in piano roll 2012/09/09 09:48:09 (permalink)
    Found this while looking for something else for you that I used years ago before getting my theory down. (Chordspace or something?)

    http://www.synleor.com/improvisator.html

    I know my theory pretty well by now, but I'd be damned if this isn't the best thing since sliced bread.

    Currently just playing around with it, seems to work fine in Sonar.

    There's a demo you can download to check out.

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    Re:Display of chords in piano roll 2012/09/10 21:40:22 (permalink)
    Loptec


    satyatunes


    Please provide some examples as to which CAL and how to run, etc. Sorry, I haven't touched upon CAL at all.
    Loptec


    Kalle Rantaaho


    Hmmm... Creating chords with one click. That would be nice in many situations.


    ah! but.. this you can do! :)

    there are CAL-programs to create different chords from one note. And it's possible to create shortcuts to execute CALs :)



    ok! :)
    try this:

    • go into the PRV and draw a C-note.
    • select the note and choose process->run CAL... (Ctrl+F1)
    • in the window that pops up choose (for example) Minor Chord.cal and klick OK
    • you'll now see that a minor C chord has been created in the PRV

    I don't know if you know how to create a shortcut, so.. Here we go:

    You can create a shortcut for the Minor Chord.cal by going to preferences (advanced mode)

    • Go to "Keyboard Shortcuts"
    • In the search field write CAL and find the Minor Chord.cal in the list.
    • Press "locate key" and type the shortcut you want to use for this CAL (let's say Ctrl+E) 
    • Select Minor Chord.cal in the list and click "bind"
    • You now only have to select a not and press Ctrl+E to create a minor chord from a note

    Thanks for the shortcut creation steps. Will keep it handy.

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    Re:Display of chords in piano roll 2012/09/16 05:53:36 (permalink)
    A big thank you to everyone . I will try these tips . So far I have been using FL studio ,saving a midi file and importing into Sonar . This is quite time consuming . 
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    Re:Display of chords in piano roll 2012/09/16 10:24:06 (permalink)
    Another option for you is to try MidiChords.

    http://www.thepiz.org/plugins/?p=midiChords

    You have to the one time setup of mapping the chords to keys. Then you can play those chords by just pressing one key on your controller. It does not come with any presets. I have started creating triads for each scale. I will share the presets but don't know when it's going to be finished.
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    Re:Display of chords in piano roll 2012/09/16 10:59:04 (permalink)
    In Band in a Box you have a chord box with all the variations and they play when you click them.

    Good to see how a flat major 9 demented chord would sound in a certain part.


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