martinv
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Is it possible to copy channel fader and pan to a 'Send' Mix?
In X1, Is it possible to copy my channel fader and pan settings into the channels Send. I often need to setup amonitor mix for musicians or myself and it would be very handy to just copy the main fader/pan settings on channels and apply this to an aux Send mix as a starting point as my main mix often up and running and I want to copy these settings to a monitor mix as a starting point. Basically i'm looking for the "copy all channel faders and pans to Send #x" setting. Does this exist?
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Bristol_Jonesey
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Re:Is it possible to copy channel fader and pan to a 'Send' Mix?
2012/09/10 03:30:17
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Re:Is it possible to copy channel fader and pan to a 'Send' Mix?
2012/09/10 04:32:18
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Don't know about X1 but in 8.5.3: Select track, Copy; un-select events etc. and select Automation in the Copy dialog box. Make a blank audio track. Paste the automation into the blank track. Make sure the blank track has the same Aux sends you need. Right-click any node in the automation envelope and choose Assign Envelope and assign it to a Send. For example, right-click the fader envelope and Assign it to Aux Bus whatever. When you're finished cut it and paste it back into the necessary track. Sorry, not as intuitive as it could be but it works. Doesn`t really take that long actually. Maybe someone has an easier method.
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Re:Is it possible to copy channel fader and pan to a 'Send' Mix?
2012/09/10 06:18:30
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Surely it's much quicker to do this via the track view where all your controls are laid out in front of you. I'm not bashing Stoons, but your method would involve creating an envelope where none previously existed. I'd start by creating a new "monitor" bus (assigning it's output to a spare pair on your interface) Then, select all your tracks (or the ones you want in the monitor mix) and insert a send on these to your new bus all in one go. Then in track view set your send volume/pan to the same as the track volume/pan. Of course - if you DO have extensive automation in any track then this automation should then be duplicated on the sends. I can't think of a quicker way, other than doing it via your busses - run one out for drums, one for bass, one for guitars etc. Far less to worry about, and if it's only for a headphone/monitor mix, then who cares that the balance isn't exactly spot on?
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Re:Is it possible to copy channel fader and pan to a 'Send' Mix?
2012/09/10 06:23:46
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Bristol_Jonesey Surely it's much quicker to do this via the track view where all your controls are laid out in front of you. I'm not bashing Stoons, but your method would involve creating an envelope where none previously existed. Actually, no need to create anything. Just copy and paste existing automation. Which can be done in track view :-)
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Re:Is it possible to copy channel fader and pan to a 'Send' Mix?
2012/09/10 06:25:01
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What if there isn't any existing automation?
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Re:Is it possible to copy channel fader and pan to a 'Send' Mix?
2012/09/10 06:31:37
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Remember also that it's possible to set the pan of a send to match that of the track - that potentially solves one issue.
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Re:Is it possible to copy channel fader and pan to a 'Send' Mix?
2012/09/10 06:37:36
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Yep - just right click it and select "follow track pan" Again, if it was me - I wouldn't get hung up at all about pan positions for a headphone/monitor mix.
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Re:Is it possible to copy channel fader and pan to a 'Send' Mix?
2012/09/10 06:44:31
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Bristol_Jonesey What if there isn't any existing automation? In those tracks you would simply "set your send volume/pan to the same as the track volume/pan". No need for cutting and pasting anything if it was just a static level thruout the track. Nonetheless, I doubt any of this advice is very useful if we`re talking about a large project. If the OP`s question was to simplify taking the settings of say 48 tracks and applying the basic volume/pan settings to a Send then I`m not aware of any easy method either. As per "Remember also that it's possible to set the pan of a send to match that of the track - that potentially solves one issue." the same can be done by grouping the fader and the Send level. Personally, if I was going to do this often I`d set up a template where every track has the Fader linked to the Send`level and the Track pan linked to the Send pan via control groups. Would save a lot of grief in future projects.
post edited by SToons - 2012/09/10 07:19:39
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Re:Is it possible to copy channel fader and pan to a 'Send' Mix?
2012/09/10 08:45:07
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the same can be done by grouping the fader and the Send level. Now, that would work, and short of having a dedicated function is about the most eloquent method suggested yet.
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Re:Is it possible to copy channel fader and pan to a 'Send' Mix?
2012/09/10 11:12:13
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Is it really necessary to clone automation for a headphone mix? If the send is post-fader, won't it incorporate all the automation in the track? Personally, my cue mixes are always straight pre-fx sends, so I can't say from experience.
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Re:Is it possible to copy channel fader and pan to a 'Send' Mix?
2012/09/10 19:22:04
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Thanks for all the replies. I'll look into the grouping faders and send levels method and getting my project template refined. Is it really necessary to clone automation for a headphone mix? If the send is post-fader, won't it incorporate all the automation in the track? Personally, my cue mixes are always straight pre-fx sends, so I can't say from experience. I didn't think of this. I would like the monitor sends to be post volume envelope and pre fader, so as i'm recording other musicians I can adjust the control room mix without affecting their headphone mix.
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Re:Is it possible to copy channel fader and pan to a 'Send' Mix?
2012/09/10 19:33:43
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One thing to note - if you're sending Pre-fader then "Follow Track pan" will not work. At least not in 8.5.3., which makes sense as any changes to faders or pans come -after- the Send in Pre mode. Likely nothing new but I thought it worth a mention. Same goes with linking Control groups as linking the Fader to the Send won't help you in Pre-fader mode.
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