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Should I have been offended? Discuss ...
So I'm at the Quick Trip on E15th in DSM today getting a soda. You know the place, it's down by the section of town where all the buildings are painted earthy browns and golds with faux mud hut beams protruding from just underneath the rooflines. The place you don't go to after dark ... or during the light for that matter ... but hey, I was thirsty ... There she stood holding up the building ... I could smell the perfume whisking on the breeze from 7 parking spots away, black dress, leather strapped high heels halfway up her shins, 3, maybe 4 teeth, shaking like a wet cat in the snow ... I sat there wondering what her story might be, wondering where she's been, the things she's seen in her lifetime ... As each guy walked in the store she kindly asked with a trembling voice, "Can you tell me what time it is?", as she gazed at her digital watch, tapping on it as if the hands weren't moving and she was trying to perform a Fonzarelli to make them magically start moving again. Most ignored her, a few replied as they walked by ... I go strolling in, she says nothing. I come strolling out, she says nothing. I was offended. Should I have been? Discuss ...
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Re:Should I have been offended? Discuss ...
2012/09/11 02:19:01
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were you wearing a watch?
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Re:Should I have been offended? Discuss ...
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I don't think you should've gotten offended. There is this thing in psychology called Social Attribution Theory. You know... you're at the airport departures and you see a couple kissing - you give them an attribute like "one of them is going abroad". Departures + couple kissing = they'll miss each other etc. Little would you know that they're there because the guy just got back from a trip and they went to departure section because the bookshop there has a wider selection of books.... You get my point... As you approached her, both of you bestowed some factors on each other. You were already "wondering where she's been, the things she's seen in her lifetime" and whether you were aware of it or not, you came to some conclusions. She did the same about you. As in... Could be the way you looked at her, could be you were wearing for eg a suit which for some people looks somewhat intimidating (social classes and whatnot). It could be that you have that "I don't take no bull**it" look so she spared you the act...
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Re:Should I have been offended? Discuss ...
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It could be that she said it to the neighborhood guys she knew and not to you because you were unknown to her. I wouldn't get offended unless you get some entertainment out of being offended. You painted a good, visual description of her and the area, maybe you should write a song about her.
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Or she's just scared to talk to zombies?
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It might be the axe in your skull and blood dripping down the side of your head. just sayin'
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Re:Should I have been offended? Discuss ...
2012/09/11 07:24:49
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Little details maybe... like her not knowing that it is just a Skoal can in your back pocket and not an indication of having to work for it.
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Maybe you should have been hanging your tongue out of the other side of your mouth. Just saying!
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Re:Should I have been offended? Discuss ...
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So... it was snowing yesterday....?
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Re:Should I have been offended? Discuss ...
2012/09/12 00:32:07
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Old55 I wouldn't get offended unless you get some entertainment out of being offended. No, I don't get off on that kind of attention, but the thread was for entertainment and not to be taken too seriously ... although, every word is true. It was sad to be honest, she was hurtin' and I can only imagine what her life is like. :( You painted a good, visual description of her and the area, maybe you should write a song about her. There's several already ... Queen Of The Silver Dollar by Dr. Hook & The Medicine Show comes to mind ... The QT I was talking about has a bad reputation. Shootings, gang fights, robberies, random outbreaks of violence, prostitution ... here in little old safe and secure Iowa. It's disgusting really. No place is sacred any more. What's happening is, the state is getting money for a relocation program for troubled youths and families to be relocated from Chicago to various places in IA ... it hasn't exactly been working out so well for the folks who have called this place home all their life. Last year one of them got p/o'd at his girlfriend. Told her if she went to work, he was going to kill her. Walked in the convenience store she was working at and kept his promise with a double barrel shotgun. Oh well. What ya gonna do.
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Re:Should I have been offended? Discuss ...
2012/09/12 01:03:32
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I would have been offended .....then an hour later I would have come back and given her a buisness card with 1-800 - Dentist written on it as my insult revenge
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Re:Should I have been offended? Discuss ...
2012/09/12 01:06:19
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Bub Old55 I wouldn't get offended unless you get some entertainment out of being offended. No, I don't get off on that kind of attention, but the thread was for entertainment and not to be taken too seriously ... although, every word is true. It was sad to be honest, she was hurtin' and I can only imagine what her life is like. :( You painted a good, visual description of her and the area, maybe you should write a song about her. There's several already ... Queen Of The Silver Dollar by Dr. Hook & The Medicine Show comes to mind ... The QT I was talking about has a bad reputation. Shootings, gang fights, robberies, random outbreaks of violence, prostitution ... here in little old safe and secure Iowa. It's disgusting really. No place is sacred any more. What's happening is, the state is getting money for a relocation program for troubled youths and families to be relocated from Chicago to various places in IA ... it hasn't exactly been working out so well for the folks who have called this place home all their life. Last year one of them got p/o'd at his girlfriend. Told her if she went to work, he was going to kill her. Walked in the convenience store she was working at and kept his promise with a double barrel shotgun. Oh well. What ya gonna do. When I said entertainment, I was leading into the song writing aspect of the situation. I didn't mean to suggest that you would demean her or anything like that. I may have heard the Dr. Hook song, but it's been so long that I don't remember. There are probably few more tunes, but I can't think of any at the moment. Still, I bet you can come up with a different take on the subject. It is sad that big city violence has spread into more rural and suburban areas like that. Like you said, What ya gonna do.
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Re:Should I have been offended? Discuss ...
2012/09/12 15:19:34
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@old55 ... I misunderstood your post. I do that a lot, especially the later in the evening it is when im tired. :) It would maoe a good song depending on where I went with it. Sorry for typo,s on cell. Speaking of bqd sections of town .... some guy just pulled up to me in a run down minivqn trying to sell me a stolen surround system. Unbelievable. Im in the parking lot of a nice bank eating lunch in my truck here in Missouri ... just pulls right up. WTF.
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Re:Should I have been offended? Discuss ...
2012/09/12 15:26:20
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People. [sigh...] I'm going back into the bunker.
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Re:Should I have been offended? Discuss ...
2012/09/12 16:22:58
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Maybe you just creeped her out. She wasn't accustomed to seeing a full set of teeth all in one place. Last year I saw my first crack whore up close. Well, not too close. Close enough for her to ask if anyone in our group had an extra cigarette. One old guy pulled out a pack and counted the sticks therein, then announced "nope - only 20, no extras" and put them away. On the topic of "should I have been offended?". I realized recently that I haven't been hit on by a gay guy in probably 20 years or more. Should I be depressed about that, or relieved? Come to think of it, it's been almost that long since I've been hit on by a chick. Even longer since I've been carded at a bar. Hmm, I think this is a train of thought I probably shouldn't be riding.
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Re:Should I have been offended? Discuss ...
2012/09/12 17:28:08
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I've shared this story before, but I'll do so again since it's somewhat near the topic at hand. I had boarded a plane in Chicago. It was a very full flight. I had a window seat near the back of the plane. One of the last passengers to board was a woman who I'm guessing was in her 30's. She found her way to my row, double checked her seat assignment, and in an extremely disgusted manner, reluctantly sat next to me. No sooner had she done so, she climbed out of her seat and accosted the flight attendant. She demanded a "better seat". The attendant told here there were no other seats. The passenger pointed at me and hissed loudly, "I shouldn't have to sit next to That!" I admit. My feelings were a little hurt. Sure, I'm repulsive. Of course, I'm a hideous excuse for a human being. Obviously, my very existence is an affront to Nature. Still, I was offended. I went to get a haircut. I was told to sit down and someone would be with me soon. I sat and leafed through some fashion magazine for about 10 minutes. A guy came in and said he wanted a haircut. He was asked if he had a reservation. He said that he didn't, and she took him in right away. Three young guys came in and wanted haircuts. They were shorn and sent on their way ahead of me. A woman, 2 kids, and 2 more men were all put ahead of me. I said, "Excuse me, I've been waiting." One stylist finally agreed to cut my hair. Throughout the whole experience she kept muttering, "Eeew!!!" Somehow she managed not to throw up on me. Ever since then, I refuse to go back to one of those places and pay someone to be rude to me. I can get that at home. When I travel for business, I stay in my hotel room, order take out food, and do everything I possibly can to avoid interacting with People. I don't even want to go drive around. I just want to lock the door, close the curtains, and shut them all away. That seems to be a good solution for all of us.
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Re:Should I have been offended? Discuss ...
2012/09/12 17:35:34
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Bit, What is this "hit on" you speak of? Are you a snare drum?
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Re:Should I have been offended? Discuss ...
2012/09/12 18:43:42
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Bub @old55 ... I misunderstood your post. I do that a lot, especially the later in the evening it is when im tired. :) It would maoe a good song depending on where I went with it. Sorry for typo,s on cell. Speaking of bqd sections of town .... some guy just pulled up to me in a run down minivqn trying to sell me a stolen surround system. Unbelievable. Im in the parking lot of a nice bank eating lunch in my truck here in Missouri ... just pulls right up. WTF. I've been getting misunderstood a bunch lately, so it's probably not your fault. Now there's a song title. Too bad "Don't Let Me Be Misunderstood" is already taken. It's been a long time since someone tried to sell be hot stereo equipement out of the trunk of his car. He claimed he just did an install and all this brand new stuff was left over. It's unfortunate that he interrupted your lunch like that.
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Re:Should I have been offended? Discuss ...
2012/09/12 20:23:46
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Old55 Bub @old55 ... I misunderstood your post. I do that a lot, especially the later in the evening it is when im tired. :) It would maoe a good song depending on where I went with it. Sorry for typo,s on cell. Speaking of bqd sections of town .... some guy just pulled up to me in a run down minivqn trying to sell me a stolen surround system. Unbelievable. Im in the parking lot of a nice bank eating lunch in my truck here in Missouri ... just pulls right up. WTF. I've been getting misunderstood a bunch lately, so it's probably not your fault. Now there's a song title. Too bad "Don't Let Me Be Misunderstood" is already taken. It's been a long time since someone tried to sell be hot stereo equipement out of the trunk of his car. He claimed he just did an install and all this brand new stuff was left over. It's unfortunate that he interrupted your lunch like that. I'm not sure I'm following what you're trying to say here Jan...
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Re:Should I have been offended? Discuss ...
2012/09/12 20:54:54
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Some fallen bird chose not to make contact with you. The scene you paint is so desperate, I have to wonder why you didn't say anything.
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2012/09/12 21:56:32
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craigb Old55 Bub @old55 ... I misunderstood your post. I do that a lot, especially the later in the evening it is when im tired. :) It would maoe a good song depending on where I went with it. Sorry for typo,s on cell. Speaking of bqd sections of town .... some guy just pulled up to me in a run down minivqn trying to sell me a stolen surround system. Unbelievable. Im in the parking lot of a nice bank eating lunch in my truck here in Missouri ... just pulls right up. WTF. I've been getting misunderstood a bunch lately, so it's probably not your fault. Now there's a song title. Too bad "Don't Let Me Be Misunderstood" is already taken. It's been a long time since someone tried to sell be hot stereo equipement out of the trunk of his car. He claimed he just did an install and all this brand new stuff was left over. It's unfortunate that he interrupted your lunch like that. I'm not sure I'm following what you're trying to say here Jan... See!
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2012/09/12 22:02:34
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've shared this story before, but I'll do so again since it's somewhat near the topic at hand. I had boarded a plane in Chicago. It was a very full flight. I had a window seat near the back of the plane. One of the last passengers to board was a woman who I'm guessing was in her 30's. She found her way to my row, double checked her seat assignment, and in an extremely disgusted manner, reluctantly sat next to me. No sooner had she done so, she climbed out of her seat and accosted the flight attendant. She demanded a "better seat". The attendant told here there were no other seats. The passenger pointed at me and hissed loudly, "I shouldn't have to sit next to That!" I admit. My feelings were a little hurt. Sure, I'm repulsive. Of course, I'm a hideous excuse for a human being. Obviously, my very existence is an affront to Nature. Still, I was offended. I went to get a haircut. I was told to sit down and someone would be with me soon. I sat and leafed through some fashion magazine for about 10 minutes. A guy came in and said he wanted a haircut. He was asked if he had a reservation. He said that he didn't, and she took him in right away. Three young guys came in and wanted haircuts. They were shorn and sent on their way ahead of me. A woman, 2 kids, and 2 more men were all put ahead of me. I said, "Excuse me, I've been waiting." One stylist finally agreed to cut my hair. Throughout the whole experience she kept muttering, "Eeew!!!" Somehow she managed not to throw up on me. Ever since then, I refuse to go back to one of those places and pay someone to be rude to me. I can get that at home. When I travel for business, I stay in my hotel room, order take out food, and do everything I possibly can to avoid interacting with People. I don't even want to go drive around. I just want to lock the door, close the curtains, and shut them all away. That seems to be a good solution for all of us. If you ever visit the Atlanta metro area.... you have a friend and a place to stay. Bank on it. Julien
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Re:Should I have been offended? Discuss ...
2012/09/13 08:32:10
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UbiquitousBubba I've shared this story before, but I'll do so again since it's somewhat near the topic at hand. I had boarded a plane in Chicago. It was a very full flight. I had a window seat near the back of the plane. One of the last passengers to board was a woman who I'm guessing was in her 30's. She found her way to my row, double checked her seat assignment, and in an extremely disgusted manner, reluctantly sat next to me. No sooner had she done so, she climbed out of her seat and accosted the flight attendant. She demanded a "better seat". The attendant told here there were no other seats. The passenger pointed at me and hissed loudly, "I shouldn't have to sit next to That!" I admit. My feelings were a little hurt. Sure, I'm repulsive. Of course, I'm a hideous excuse for a human being. Obviously, my very existence is an affront to Nature. Still, I was offended. I went to get a haircut. I was told to sit down and someone would be with me soon. I sat and leafed through some fashion magazine for about 10 minutes. A guy came in and said he wanted a haircut. He was asked if he had a reservation. He said that he didn't, and she took him in right away. Three young guys came in and wanted haircuts. They were shorn and sent on their way ahead of me. A woman, 2 kids, and 2 more men were all put ahead of me. I said, "Excuse me, I've been waiting." One stylist finally agreed to cut my hair. Throughout the whole experience she kept muttering, "Eeew!!!" Somehow she managed not to throw up on me. Ever since then, I refuse to go back to one of those places and pay someone to be rude to me. I can get that at home. When I travel for business, I stay in my hotel room, order take out food, and do everything I possibly can to avoid interacting with People. I don't even want to go drive around. I just want to lock the door, close the curtains, and shut them all away. That seems to be a good solution for all of us. Wow UB, I gotta admit...it really made me sad reading this. Not to get off track from Bub's post...but wow. You seem very well spoken, confident and even sometimes intimidating (in an intelligent way) with your posts on here and you've always posted things that sort of gave me that feeling of "pff...I just let everything roll off my back". I can see this stuff really bothered you. I guess what's made it a bit more sad to me is, I can relate to those things....especially the "hair" parts. Three short stories...one time I'm in church, I'm Catholic and there is a part of our mass where we shake hands with those around us and say "peace be with you." I turned to an elderly, balding gent, stuck out my hand and he says "you really oughta cut your hair, you're a menace to society" and I said "and peace be with you too Sir". It really bothered me. Ok, laugh at my appearance, look down on me, consider me an outcast or a weirdo...but I went to church to praise God. I can't be all that bad? Or can I? Yeah, this time I was actually. :( I'll get to that part. But anyway, it bothered me so much, when I left church and got into my car and drove away, I just couldn't forget about it. A car behind me was blinking its lights for me to get out of the passing lane. I moved over when I was done passing slower traffic and when I did, this car behind me went to pass me and rolled down his window, gave me both barrels of the finger and yelled something about f'ing my mother. The double barrel fingers I could handle...saying that about my mother who I had just lost...sorry, unforgivable unless you're Christ himself. I lost it and went after the dude following him through 3 towns until he stopped at a traffic light. Needless to say, when I got out of my car, what happened next is too graphic to mention. Here I am, fresh out of church...tempted by the Devil and man....the temptation got the best of me. Another time I was working for my family business. I was a truck driver and delivered cleaning supplies all over. I made a delivery to a church and the pastor says "you need to cut that hair" and I said "with all due respect Sir, Jesus had long hair...why can't I?" He didn't say a word. But it still bothered me. Made another delivery one time to a funeral parlor. Somehow, the order was lost and the guy was upset that he didn't get his delivery. We had a new girl working for us that misplaced the order. When he called us and screamed about it, I immediately ran over to him to drop it off. When I got there, ready to apologize profusely for what had happened, I never got the chance...he greeted me with "ah, now I can see why it's late...look at you...what a disgrace. This will be your last delivery." I can relate brother. I'll also join Julien's camp and say you have a friend as well as a place to stay in South Jersey if you're ever around here. :) Bitflipper: be relieved on the gay guy thing...take it from someone that gets hit on all the time. LOL! It's happened so much to me, it no longer creeps me out like it once did. They only hit on you to make you uncomfortable. 95% of them know you're straight and don't want a straight guy anyway. The day I stopped letting it bother me was the day I just laughed and took it as a compliment. :) -Danny
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Re:Should I have been offended? Discuss ...
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Oh, I'm okay. Yeah, these things happen and you have to roll with it. My family jokes about it. You can have a restaraunt full of happy employees and customers, but when I go in, I'll inevitably get the waiter who has a meltdown. I'll get the cashier who suddenly loses the ability to speak English. I'll get the Assistant Manager who wants to impress his girlfriend by telling off a customer. My wife will marvel at the fact that everyone else will be treated with respect, and I'll get treated like garbage. When they do that in front of her, though, they regret it. She does not hesitate to educate them in a very loud and public manner. Her theory, and I think she may be right, is that I expect the worst of people, and so they live up to my expectations. She thinks they are picking up on subtle body language, facial clues, or mannerisms that tell people, "This is the One We Despise", even if they don't realize it. I think they're just being themselves. As a result, I go out of my way to try to be nice to people to avoid setting off their natural hostile response. Nice doesn't work for some people (the TSA), so I settle for trying to attract their attention or engage them in any way (TSA again). I can't change other people's responses to me, so I just try to avoid triggering negative responses. In my youth, I was very outgoing. I loved going to concerts, hanging out with friends, going out and meeting people, etc. As I get older, I'm much more comfortable holed up alone in the dark and talking to myself. If it were not for my wife and kids, I would have already morphed into "that creepy guy who never leaves his house." Instead, I'm just, "Oh No! That creepy guy is coming over here! Pretend you just died!" It's a step up.
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Re:Should I have been offended? Discuss ...
2012/09/13 12:00:25
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"Bud" It was sad to be honest, she was hurtin' and I can only imagine what her life is like. :( I think you summed it up right here. Nothing to add.
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Re:Should I have been offended? Discuss ...
2012/09/13 14:50:18
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Hey Danny, I bet there's a few of us here who think you should cut your hair too. (But only because we're jealous 'cause we can't grow it long like that.  )
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2012/09/14 08:47:23
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Some of us can grow it that long, but not on our heads...
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Re:Should I have been offended? Discuss ...
2012/09/14 09:02:13
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UbiquitousBubba Some of us can grow it that long, but not on our heads... I really didn't need that visual this early in the morning.
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Re:Should I have been offended? Discuss ...
2012/09/14 09:07:12
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UbiquitousBubba Some of us can grow it that long, but not on our heads... Distant relative of Wookie?
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Re:Should I have been offended? Discuss ...
2012/09/14 10:12:25
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[Note to self: I don't think the Nasal Dreadlock fashion statement is catching on. I'm not sure about the Ear Afro.]
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