jwh
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Who uses this ?
Hi,
I'm looking into Native Instruments Maschine, any thoughts, is it good with SONAR ?
does it do what it says on the tin ? I'm basically looking for anyone who uses it to tell
me if its' worth the price, and it's ease of use.
Thanks
John
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synkrotron
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Re:Who uses this ?
2012/09/20 07:53:14
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Wow, that is quite a pricey piece of kit. It would no doubt look like the D's B's on stage. I've seen a few youtube vids demoing Mashine so it might be worth checking them out yourself.
What is your "discipline?"
I would have thought that you would still need a keyboard too.
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jwh
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Re:Who uses this ?
2012/09/20 08:11:43
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synkrotron
Wow, that is quite a pricey piece of kit. It would no doubt look like the D's B's on stage. I've seen a few youtube vids demoing Mashine so it might be worth checking them out yourself.
What is your "discipline?"
I would have thought that you would still need a keyboard too.
Hi, This would be purely for my home studio use, I'm writing some other material just now outwith my normal guitar based music, and yes I have a keyboard that I use anyway, I just thought that Maschine looked, and after listening to some demos on you tube, sounded amazing, do you know anyone that uses it ? John
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Re:Who uses this ?
2012/09/20 08:15:28
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Sorry John, I don't. I'd give this topic another half day or so... there must be a Maschine user here.
What about taking a trip to your local music store. Having said that, I bet not a lot of retailers stock this beast. You might have to bite the bullet and let us all know how it goes ;-)
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Mystic38
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Re:Who uses this ?
2012/09/20 08:22:53
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Maschine is $399 so hardly pricey.. Its a) a nice configurable midi controller b) a drum machine with huge content c) a standalone MV/MPC style beat making machine d) a great standalone rhythm/clock source for hardware synths e) a vst host (and Massive is free as part of upcoming update) f) a 16 stereo out VST with midi in, midi out for my 2c its worth it as a drum machine alone either in or outside of sonar..ymmv
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jwh
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Re:Who uses this ?
2012/09/20 08:37:13
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Mystic38
Maschine is $399 so hardly pricey..
Its
a) a nice configurable midi controller
b) a drum machine with huge content
c) a standalone MV/MPC style beat making machine
d) a great standalone rhythm/clock source for hardware synths
e) a vst host (and Massive is free as part of upcoming update)
f) a 16 stereo out VST with midi in, midi out
for my 2c its worth it as a drum machine alone either in or outside of sonar..ymmv
e) a 16 stereo ch vst for sonar
Hi Ian, Thanks for your input, I see from your signature that you use NI, and obviously like it. I was looking for a good drum machine as well as all the other attributes that Maschine seems to offer, so it's looking good. John
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Re:Who uses this ?
2012/09/20 08:51:44
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I use it, with the Mikro. Yes it works in Sonar. Very nice for making beats and easy to do so after a few days working with it. You will like it.
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Re:Who uses this ?
2012/09/20 09:03:21
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600 euros sounds pricey to me, but we all have different budgets and available funds
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Re:Who uses this ?
2012/09/20 09:10:13
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I use it, with the Mikro. Yes it works in Sonar. Very nice for making beats and easy to do so after a few days working with it. You will like it.
Hi Laney, I looked at the mikro version and thought it may be a bit small ? Obviously you seem to think it's ok, I was looking at the price difference between the mikro and the standard maschine, and it's about £200 ($325) So that's something else for me to think about, Mystic 38 in another post said it was only $399, so obviously a lot more expensive here in the UK equivalent to $750. John
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Re:Who uses this ?
2012/09/20 09:13:51
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Yeah, I've just looked at the conversion rates and 599 euros = 479 GBP
Okay, still might not be breaking the bank but as a controller I, personally, think it is pricey, regardless of the fact that Massive comes with it, and a load of samples.
It is always the way with electronic goods, we appear to get fleeced in the UK for some reason (taxes?)
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Re:Who uses this ?
2012/09/20 09:19:31
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I got my mikro for $225 in the US. Which was much easier for me to give up compared to $499 the other was. This helped me make up my mind- http://www.native-instruments.com/#/en/products/producer/maschine-mikro/?page=2919 Not much difference in the two. But if you need a midi interface get the big one. Bigger screen (not an issue because hooked up to the computer I use my monitor most of the time, Able to tweak multiple parameters I felt like I could live without those options for the money. I am very happy with it.
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Re:Who uses this ?
2012/09/20 09:40:04
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@synkrotron.. you know this is not just a controller right?.. that is like saying Sonar is a VST host. :) @jwh : those were prices on guitarcenter.com Maschine is currently on sale for ~$200 discount pending the arrival of a new controller with colored pads (a disco i dont need) but all else is the same. a quick post in the NI forums may locate a cheap source in the UK or Eur for you... the price will bounce back to $599 once old stock has gone i suspect. As Laney points out, as an add on to Sonar, Mikro is certainly adequate, for standalone beatmaking, full size is betterer...the Mikro has the basics and of course all the content too, but the larger unit is easier to use and also has the 8 knobs.. particularly handy for fx adjustments, kit/sample selection and vst control..
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Re:Who uses this ?
2012/09/20 10:11:37
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Mystic38
@synkrotron.. you know this is not just a controller right?.. that is like saying Sonar is a VST host. :)
@jwh : those were prices on guitarcenter.com
Maschine is currently on sale for ~$200 discount pending the arrival of a new controller with colored pads (a disco i dont need) but all else is the same. a quick post in the NI forums may locate a cheap source in the UK or Eur for you... the price will bounce back to $599 once old stock has gone i suspect.
As Laney points out, as an add on to Sonar, Mikro is certainly adequate, for standalone beatmaking, full size is betterer...the Mikro has the basics and of course all the content too, but the larger unit is easier to use and also has the 8 knobs.. particularly handy for fx adjustments, kit/sample selection and vst control..
If I decide to buy this, it will be the full size one, and I'm close to buying it, very close !!!!!!! John
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Re:Who uses this ?
2012/09/20 10:35:36
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its worth it i have a maschine i got mine about 3 mo. ago and i love it.. if u are in2 sampling like i am its pretty cool also it loads as a vst comes with a ton of sounds constant upgrades. if u really wanna see it in action checkout a guy on youtube called knocksquared or there website maschinetutourial.com
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Re:Who uses this ?
2012/09/20 10:46:41
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Mystic38
@synkrotron.. you know this is not just a controller right?.. that is like saying Sonar is a VST host. :)
Oh, yeah, I know it comes with Massive and a pile of samples and stuff, so you do get a lot of bang for your bucks. It's whether you need all the bangs is what I'm trying to say, so it has to be considered carefully or else you could be paying a lot of dosh for some things you do not need.
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Re:Who uses this ?
2012/09/20 11:07:04
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You may want to look into the Akai MPC Renaissance as well. It's basically Akai's answer to Maschine. It's a bit more pricey but supposedly it has some strengths that Maschine doesn't like time-stretching and so forth. There are vids on Youtube.
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Re:Who uses this ?
2012/09/20 11:10:04
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You may want to look into the Akai MPC Renaissance as well. It's basically Akai's answer to Maschine. It's a bit more pricey but supposedly it has some strengths that Maschine doesn't like time-stretching and so forth. There are vids on Youtube.
fyi ..Timestretching comes to Maschine along with Massive in the upcoming 1.8 release.. Ren looks nice and solid build quality but at $1299 it needs to also make tea, tell jokes and provide dancing girls..:)
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Re:Who uses this ?
2012/09/20 12:29:16
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It was Billy Arnell that convinced me to get Maschine. Which I did a few months ago when it went in special worldwide. Much more than a beat maker, controller and matrix player.
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