TH2 - Should there be presets?

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TH2 - Should there be presets?

I am playing with TH2 producer, can't seem to find any presets. Found very little docs about it. web search etc. Should there be presets?

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    Re:TH2 - Should there be presets? 2012/09/20 22:34:57 (permalink)
    TraceyStudios


    I am playing with TH2 producer, can't seem to find any presets. Found very little docs about it. web search etc. Should there be presets?

    There are presets, at least in the full version.  On the top right side of the window look for two blue buttons called "Write" and "Search", when you click the Search button that will open up all the presets in a table format.
    You can also access the presets by clicking on the top BANK or SOUND numbers.  Again, I'm not sure about the Sonar version, but it's there in the full.   I would assume that the Sonar version should at least have SOME presets?

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    Re:TH2 - Should there be presets? 2012/09/20 22:38:57 (permalink)
    one problem I have initially come across with TH2 is when clicking on the top left to monitor your volume input, the gui display takes over and freezes access to sonar and other vst's. I suppose this is fine for level adjustments with a hardware input, but in running a virtual input, this removes access to any gain controls on other gui's.

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    Re:TH2 - Should there be presets? 2012/09/20 22:47:07 (permalink)
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    I am playing with TH2 producer, can't seem to find any presets. Found very little docs about it. web search etc. Should there be presets?

    There are presets, at least in the full version.  On the top right side of the window look for two blue buttons called "Write" and "Search", when you click the Search button that will open up all the presets in a table format.
    You can also access the presets by clicking on the top BANK or SOUND numbers.  Again, I'm not sure about the Sonar version, but it's there in the full.   I would assume that the Sonar version should at least have SOME presets?


    Actually, I think I might be wrong about the presets.  I looked at a screenshot of TH2 that comes with Sonar (the lite version) and I did not see those Write and Search buttons I was talking about.  So maybe that version doesn't have presets.
    But the upgrade is worth it, IMHO.  You get a whole bunch more amps, cabinets and fx.

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    Re:TH2 - Should there be presets? 2012/09/20 23:39:45 (permalink)
    the Sonar version does have the Write and Search buttons; MASTER at the top left needs to be deselected. You can also navigate on the top panel (Master still deselected) using the Sound up and down buttons (Sound is roughly 'genre') and then select all the variations that display on the row underneath.

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    Re:TH2 - Should there be presets? 2012/09/21 00:17:46 (permalink)
    I assumed "TH2 Producer" would not be the "lite" version.  Producer kinda implies better than Lite?

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    Re:TH2 - Should there be presets? 2012/09/21 00:28:49 (permalink)
    I believe it is called TH2 Producer to distinguish it from the even lighter version included in SONAR Studio (and Essential?).
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    Re:TH2 - Should there be presets? 2012/09/21 00:30:23 (permalink)
    I think that's just the name the Sonar version got... as in Sonar Producer. Yes it's a little confusing. You gotta pay $99 extra for the full version.
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    Re:TH2 - Should there be presets? 2012/09/21 02:39:02 (permalink)
    Gonna stick with guitar rig 5 for now.  Paid $99 for that as well.  Feel like an addict. Gonna have to start playing gigs to pay for my Sonar habit!  X1 & GR5 last xmas, X2 and TH2 this Sept, God I hope nothing cool come out in the next year....  :)

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    Re:TH2 - Should there be presets? 2012/09/21 02:48:52 (permalink)
    LOL!  After reading a few more posts, I just realized, I upgraded to X2 which has some new features, which are lite versions. Lucky me!! I have the oppertunity to upgrade some more!!! yeah!

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    Re:TH2 - Should there be presets? 2012/11/24 10:02:23 (permalink)
    It´s a bit "strange". Got the Sonar X2 Producer and with TH2 Producer just another guitar amp simulation with a "few" simple presets...

      ...even for an "walkthrough" to get an overview about sounding and abilities it´s simply nothing more than a SHAME...!!! 

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    Re:TH2 - Should there be presets? 2012/11/24 16:44:35 (permalink)
    Mine has presets, in the top bar there's a .001 factory/.001 user. If you put it on factory, there's a bunch of presets in there, I think 4 banks, with 4 or 5 presets each.

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    Re:TH2 - Should there be presets? 2012/11/24 16:45:30 (permalink)
    There are very few presets with TH2 producer - it doesn't show the program off very well.
     
    I have not upgraded yet.  I first started out using Amplitube in Sonar 6, then Guitar Rig.  Now have Guitar Rig 5 and Amplitube 3.  I like them both, so don't really feel the need to upgrade TH2.  I'd be quite happy with just Guitar Rig, although I do love the Rectifier clean and driven amps in Amplitube3 - incredibly realistic to my ears.

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    Re:TH2 - Should there be presets? 2012/11/24 20:33:38 (permalink)
    My favorite go-to for a crunchy guitar tone with a lot of weight is Amplitube, but I just cannot get enough of the wild and wacky effects in Guitar Rig. I use huge chains of them all the time, mainly on synth sounds. Some of the beat slicing and mashing effects are great too. I would love to upgrade to the full TH2 because from what I've heard of it, the tones beat both Amplitube and GR, but I just can't shell out the $99 right now. I really wish it was cheaper. Hopefully Cakewalk will lose all sense of reality and offer it for $50 some time in the future. 

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    Re:TH2 - Should there be presets? 2012/11/24 20:41:17 (permalink)
    I particularly love the psychedelay in GP5.
     
    I wouldn't worry too much about the upgrade to  full TH2.  Do  you have the full version of Amplitube3, or the free version?
     
    I have the free version, but have bought a few extra amps.  The rectifier (mesa boogie) ones are sensational.  With those, and GR5, you have plenty.

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    Re:TH2 - Should there be presets? 2012/11/24 21:41:34 (permalink)
    It's not in the Producer version but I like the Rumble Bee preset. It makes my beeples bapple. ;-)
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    Re:TH2 - Should there be presets? 2012/11/25 14:08:56 (permalink)
    The Amplitude & GR rig versions that came with Sonar never sold me on amp modelling. I got a VG-99 to use as a guitar synth when it first came out and was slowly won over to modelling since it did a pretty good job. With a home studio it's nice not having to worry about extraneous sounds. For rhythm parts modelling is fine with me, but given a choice I still have a preference for a real amp for leads - although that gap is closing and I have used the VG-99 for some lead parts. GR didn't sound as good as the VG-99 to my ear.

    I think the TH2 amp models surpass the VG-99. They seem to respond to dynamics better and the cabinet models seem better. Needless to say I went for the upgrade. I've only been playing with it for a week or so and haven't spent much time with effects. My first impression is that the fuzz/OD/distortion in TH2 aren't as good as the VG-99. Anyway, the TH2 demo sold me ...

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    Re:TH2 - Should there be presets? 2012/11/25 14:17:09 (permalink)
    You could try mixing and matching. Once I'm set up in my new space I'm gonna be experimenting with a combo of my Line 6 head, TH2 (I too got the upgrade), GR5 and micing my amp. I think I'm gonna be able to come up with a lot of wild sounds. Fun!
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    Re:TH2 - Should there be presets? 2012/11/25 14:18:34 (permalink)
    I also have a bunch of old pedals too that'll get tossed in here and there. My Keeley modded MT-2 is awesome for recording.
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    Re:TH2 - Should there be presets? 2012/11/25 14:45:21 (permalink)
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    You could try mixing and matching. Once I'm set up in my new space I'm gonna be experimenting with a combo of my Line 6 head, TH2 (I too got the upgrade), GR5 and micing my amp. I think I'm gonna be able to come up with a lot of wild sounds. Fun!

    Yeah, I plan on mixing and matching. The VG-99 has guitar modelling as well as poly effects, alternate tuning, string bending, etc, luckily it has plenty of I/O! Straight guitar out goes to an amp as well as an analog in on an AudioFire 4 (to TH2), digital out goes into digital in on the AudioFire (VG-99 guitar modelling + effects to TH2), and subOuts go into a mixer which also goes into the AudioFire, so there are plenty of options ...
     
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    Re:TH2 - Should there be presets? 2012/11/25 15:02:07 (permalink)
    My problem with Guitar Rig is that there are just way too many wacky effect presets which devour my time in 3 hour chunks. Case in point. Granular Sparkle. I can sit and play with that one, in absolute bliss, for the whole evening. However I don't think I'd ever use it in a song. 

    I think with Guitar Rig the newer amps like Hot Solo and Rammstein sound better than the older ones. It is possible to get a killer sound with it, but I find it takes a lot more tweaking than with Amplitube or TH2. 

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    Re:TH2 - Should there be presets? 2012/12/05 17:03:58 (permalink)
    Now that I have used TH2 a bit, i am liking it. I am using sounds in each. I have notices that Guitar Rig seems to require more resources than TH2. I get pops and cracks if on some presets (increase buffer size and it goes away). Never had this with TH2. Maybe just my setup. I just purchased the Mark Studio bass version, and so far it is cool, wish it had more presets. But hey, I always wish things had more presets. I agree with Sharke, some of the sounds in GR and TH2 are so cool, I jam with them for quite a while, yet never actually used them in a tune. Still fun.

    Something to mention to rsinger: I "reamped" a guitar track and compared to GR.  I had recorded a couple ryth guitars for a tune while using GR5. I was curious to compare the GR to a live amp, so I sent the dry signal out on seperate bus, miked up an amp (sm57) and re-recorded thru a peavey valveking. Split GR hard left, live amp hard right.  When I listen to the song, i could not tell which was a live amp and which was GR. very sublte differences.

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    Re:TH2 - Should there be presets? 2012/12/05 17:32:12 (permalink)
    I think it's all good...Amplitude, GR, TH2...if you're using it and enjoying the results. TBH though sometimes I think all these virtual gear boxes are a distraction. When I was a boy (LOL) buying an amp took a couple years of savings so I made my choices very carefully. Now I have a tendency to think: $100 bucks, no biggie, hit the Download Now button and off I go...

    I've GR5 and S-Gear 2 (from Scuffham) and the Scuffham stuff has become my goto. I still use the effects in GR5 though. Haven't even had time to play around with TH2 yet. Not sure that I will actually because it seems to me that at a certain point I just give up on gear and go with what I am familiar with... Particularly when I'm satisfied with what I'm getting out of the gear.

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    Re:TH2 - Should there be presets? 2012/12/05 22:11:38 (permalink)
    I have "never can have too much gear or software" disease. Symptoms include fun discovery, with a twinge of frustration and a credit card bill.

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