First X2 Crash

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2012/09/21 10:22:49 (permalink)

First X2 Crash

Ok I found that if I click on my Master's buss realtime db reading I get a crash. Its happing with an existing project. I did open a new project and It did not happen, I also opened this project in x1 and it did not crash, The only thing different is I added a few Console Ems, an instance of breverb, and opened it in x2 and when I click to see what db im at in during playback I get a crash..

Edit: Im clicking the Meter Peak , if you did not know where I meant .
post edited by djjhart@aol.com - 2012/09/21 10:32:34

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    vladasyn
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    Re:First X2 Crash 2012/09/21 10:35:11 (permalink)
    So? Welcome to Sonar.
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    Re:First X2 Crash 2012/09/21 10:43:45 (permalink)
    It dawned on me to open the same projects both in x1 and x2 b4 adding anything with X2 and saving, I did and both projects don't crash, So Im thinking something I added along the way is causing the crash, Something in x2 is the culprit , I'm suspecting a console or bus Emulator or breveb, I'll find it..

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    Re:First X2 Crash 2012/09/21 10:46:46 (permalink)
    FOUND IT !! Breverb < 

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    Re:First X2 Crash 2012/09/21 11:08:55 (permalink)
    What I did was I open the project that was crashing, I then click on the peak meter, Crash.. Every single time.
    I even had to do a restart the computer each time, So I Then reopened the same project , I turned off all the Console and bus emulators, and breveb instances which are the pro channel format . I turned one on 1 by 1 and clicked the peak meter after each one, when I came to turn on one of the pro channel instances of breverb ,It crashed .


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    Re:First X2 Crash 2012/09/21 11:38:07 (permalink)
    OK Im wrong.. more too it :( still hackin

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    Seth Perlstein [Cakewalk]
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    Re:First X2 Crash 2012/09/21 12:23:25 (permalink)
    Do you have any instances of Concrete Limiter in the project? 

    SP 
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    Re:First X2 Crash 2012/09/21 12:43:11 (permalink)
    I do..

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    Re:First X2 Crash 2012/09/21 13:10:50 (permalink)
    yes  Seth I had an Instance of the concrete Limiter on my Master Bus , It was disable , Now I erased it completely no problems, So far.. I kept getting the crash only if I put focus on a certain track , which had the pro channel mod's of Breverb , console emulator , eq, ect.

    Computer - Intel Q9550, Intel BX48bt2 MB, W8 64 bit. 8 gb Ram, SSD  
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    Software - Sonar Platinum , Vengeance VPS bundle,Sugar Bytes Effectrix, Turnado, NI Komplete 10 Ultimate, Dune, Rob Papen  Blade , Delay, Punch Evolved.
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    Re:First X2 Crash 2012/09/21 13:22:29 (permalink)
    Lots of crashes at my end and Concrete Limiter always in use.

    Sonar is not giving the option of sending crash report- it hangs and the sonar process never dies even after ctrl-alt-del, a full reboot is necessitated.

    Where are the crash reports filed so that I may send them in?


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    Re:First X2 Crash 2012/09/21 13:27:34 (permalink)
    These problems are not within X2 itself - concrete limiter is a separate product from SONAR. It will likely be addressed in a future update to the limiter. 

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    Re:First X2 Crash 2012/09/21 13:30:51 (permalink)
    i used Concrete in X1 all the time too- no crashes. logging off now- work to do

     
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    Re:First X2 Crash 2012/09/23 01:42:19 (permalink)
    Seth Perlstein [Cakewalk
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    Do you have any instances of Concrete Limiter in the project? 

    SP 

    Seth,


    Regarding some crashing being related to Concrete Limiter, I think there may be a connection.  I had been having a problem, even before X2, with occasional crashing when inserting or removing a plugin, from buses mostly, and occasionally from tracks.  It seemed to happen often on some projects and rarely if at all on others, but there didn't seem to be any common connection to which plugin I was inserting or removing at the time.

    After seeing your post, I took one one project that seemed to be particularly prone to this issue, and removed all instances of Concrete, and it hasn't crashed since.  I'll have to test it a while longer to consider this "concrete" evidence that it was the cause, but it's feeling pretty likely at this point.  The fact that I encountered this problem frequently on busses and rarely on tracks also mirrors the typical frequency of where Concrete Limiter appears in my projects.  It seems to me that scenario for the crash may be when Concrete is already on a track and you add or remove another plugin, although intermittently.


    Bill

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    Re:First X2 Crash 2012/09/23 01:56:17 (permalink)
    I have a project started in an earlier version on Sonar that will crash X2 very reliably with a very simple recipe.  I simply have auto-zoom on, click on some tracks, then click on a bus.  As Sonar attempts to auto-zoom the bus, boom!

    This project is crash free in X1.  Is there somewhere I can upload this?

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    Re:First X2 Crash 2012/09/23 05:28:02 (permalink)
    FWIW I can auto-zoom tracks then busses without problems, tried it both in new and old projects.

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