BluerecordingStudios
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[SOLVED]!!! BIG bug - Instant crashing of Sonar after switching tracks and buses
After inserting console emulation on tracks and bus, Sonar crashes {or bus is not activated} during playback if you selecting between track - buss - another track and so on. Please try this!!!!
post edited by BluerecordingStudios - 2012/10/01 05:32:57
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SvenArne
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Re:!!! BIG bug - Instant crashing of Sonar after switching tracks and buses during playbac
2012/09/22 06:08:55
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I just tried, and managed to crash a fairly complex project by doing a lot of selecting back and forth while console emulation was engaged. But it's a lot of other plugs and stuff in this project, so there are too many variables. I will investigate further...
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Re:!!! BIG bug - Instant crashing of Sonar after switching tracks and buses during playbac
2012/09/22 06:17:11
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- Tried a simple project with just audio tracks and no plugins/prochannel. - Inserted console emulation on all tracks/master bus and gave it a go. I had trouble getting the master bus selected while playback was running like you describe, but I couldn't crash it. - Inserted Rapture, selected a patch and recorded some notes. - Engaged console emulation on that track. During playback, SONAR crashed after a few mouse clicks. The complex project also had Rapture in it. Do you have Rapture running?
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BluerecordingStudios
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Re:!!! BIG bug - Instant crashing of Sonar after switching tracks and buses during playbac
2012/09/22 06:35:14
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No, without Rapture. If the project is simple, it doesnt crash, but if it is complext ic crasher. But in both cases, this is really bad bug, because I switching a lot between bus and track plugins, slecting during playback....
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Re:!!! BIG bug - Instant crashing of Sonar after switching tracks and buses during playbac
2012/09/22 06:46:15
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First times crashed with a minimal project with just 2 tracks and not much more, second time with a fairly large project with Ez-drummer and some other soft synths no prolbems. Very strange. I am using diskdriver right now to defrag all of my disks, have done a chdsk during boot defrag a cuole of times, could be the reason. Still in X1 no crashes at all whatever I do.
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Re:!!! BIG bug - Instant crashing of Sonar after switching tracks and buses during playbac
2012/09/22 06:48:50
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Crashing is not so strange, but unability to select bus when console emus are present is very strange. I found that when I change size of buses window section during playback it can be selected, very strange!
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Re:!!! BIG bug - Instant crashing of Sonar after switching tracks and buses during playbac
2012/09/22 06:55:09
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Hmmm. I just fired up a relatively complex project, with Rapture running a complex patch, a few audio tracks with crossfades and some automation, console emu on all tracks and the master bus, T-Racks with a few plugins on the master bus, Breverb and a few other FX running live, Pro-channel EQ and compression on several tracks... and switched around like a madman from tracks to busses, opening FX and synth windows left right and centre... and was unable to make it crash or delay the display in any way. And that's on XP on a 5-year-old machine (desktop specs, below). It's not a *really* big project, but it's typical of what I do and it's certainly not crashing now; having said that, this project *was* crashing a lot the other night while I was working on it; I started the project in X1 and ported it over, and ended up changing a few things, replacing some processing and such. It seems to have stabilized now! So not to say there's nothing to this bug, but it doesn't seem to be universal...
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BluerecordingStudios
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Re:!!! BIG bug - Instant crashing of Sonar after switching tracks and buses during playbac
2012/09/22 06:59:56
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So you are on different OS, I must try the XP behavior too...
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Re:!!! BIG bug - Instant crashing of Sonar after switching tracks and buses during playbac
2012/09/22 07:02:54
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On my end at least, it does seem that the console emulation affects stability in addition to making track/bus selection behave weirdly.
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Re:!!! BIG bug - Instant crashing of Sonar after switching tracks and buses during playbac
2012/09/22 07:04:53
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Re:!!! BIG bug - Instant crashing of Sonar after switching tracks and buses during playbac
2012/09/22 07:19:58
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I must admit I had this yesterday, I never said anything because I was really just experimenting on older X1 projects, I also had crashes when dragging custom made PC FX chains from the browsers into the PC. The crashes were just a complete shut down of X2, no warning dialogue boxes, no blue or white screens, the program literally just closed instantly without warning. Ive got an album to mix next week, so I will be starting fresh projects in X2 and it will give me a better idea of whats going on with long term stability while using X2!
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Re:!!! BIG bug - Instant crashing of Sonar after switching tracks and buses during playbac
2012/09/22 09:08:09
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another post yesterday said his amplitude instruments were causing crashes until he ran X2 as administrator... i'm trying that today since I had 3 crashes yesterday, one that black screened the computer. Not high ram or resources used, but many vsts/vstis. Amplitube TRacks, Add Drums, Z3ta+2... FYI, rt click the prog link, go to properties, compatibility and at the bottom you can check 'run as admin..." so it always opens in that mode. not sure if dim pro and rapture need the same treatment but I noticed many folks who needed to install those progs as admin.
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BluerecordingStudios
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Re:!!! BIG bug - Instant crashing of Sonar after switching tracks and buses during playbac
2012/09/22 15:57:39
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Someone from cakewalk should really respond to this bug. It is almost impossible to work fluently with such a bug. Thanks
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Bill Jackson [Cakewalk]
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Re:!!! BIG bug - Instant crashing of Sonar after switching tracks and buses during playbac
2012/09/22 16:02:23
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Hey guys, Our team is investigating this issue right now. Those of you who experience this in any reproducible way: would you mind reporting the steps here?: http://www.cakewalk.com/support/contact/problemreport.aspx It will help us keep track of reports and scenarios. And ultimately, it will help us get it fixed faster. Thanks.
Bill Jackson Product Manager Cakewalk
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Re:!!! BIG bug - Instant crashing of Sonar after switching tracks and buses during playbac
2012/09/22 16:21:02
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this is what sucks about being a software developer. the reward for months of a relentless, social-life-sucking product launch, is ... more, now super critical, intense and thankless work (weekends included)! hahaha. you guys rock. thanks for what you do. now, get these bugs fixed so that you can starting working on my pre-buffering-oriented scheduling model mode for the audio engine, and i'll switch to Sonar 100%, be your fiercest promoter. :-) and, if you're gonna code on the weekend at least keep a good bottle of single malt nearby. :-) (we should start a developer single malt fund, i think.)
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Bill Jackson [Cakewalk]
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Re:!!! BIG bug - Instant crashing of Sonar after switching tracks and buses during playbac
2012/09/22 16:35:52
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Jalcide this is what sucks about being a software developer. the reward for months of a relentless, social-life-sucking product launch, is ... more, now super critical, intense and thankless work (weekends included)! hahaha. you guys rock. thanks for what you do. now, get these bugs fixed so that you can starting working on my pre-buffering-oriented scheduling model mode for the audio engine, and i'll switch to Sonar 100%, be your fiercest promoter. :-) and, if you're gonna code on the weekend at least keep a good bottle of single malt nearby. :-) (we should start a developer single malt fund, i think.) That's 2 good ideas from you: scheduling model and a single malt fund. I like the latter best, personally.
Bill Jackson Product Manager Cakewalk
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Re:!!! BIG bug - Instant crashing of Sonar after switching tracks and buses during playbac
2012/09/22 16:43:34
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Not sure if this is relevant or not (was in another post I did earlier in the year), but I never had Aero turned on in windows when I had the crashes, not had once since I turned it on again, however I haven't really been pushing X2 yet. Just a thought :-) EDIT: I also switched to "Run this program as administrator" as mentioned above.
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Re:!!! BIG bug - Instant crashing of Sonar after switching tracks and buses during playbac
2012/09/22 20:50:50
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I can confirm this bug as well. i7 920 using Windows 7 x64, X2 x64. I filled out the form from the above link. Just for the record, X1d was very solid... EDIT: Just to add, that disappearing PCh is happening on my end as well. I know I read it in a thread but figured I'd add it here.
post edited by Transcending Music - 2012/09/22 21:15:42
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BluerecordingStudios
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Re:!!! BIG bug - Instant crashing of Sonar after switching tracks and buses during playbac
2012/09/23 04:06:41
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Thank you Bill, I just filled up the submit form. I tried it also on WinXP and different computer. Behavior is the same
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Re:!!! BIG bug - Instant crashing of Sonar after switching tracks and buses during playbac
2012/09/23 12:46:12
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Not in front of my machine right now, but from memory: I opened the new demo file (the one installed with the 'Additional Tools'). I muted the first track (Mixdown) Then pressed play. Opened the main vocal track Opened the lanes for it I then clicked on meter face of the the compressor in the pro channel (the one with the screw under it that can change it from white to blue). It caused an instant hang that required I close sonar. Did it again but could not repeat it. I don't thing it would help to open a ticket if I could not reproduce it at will... John
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Re:!!! BIG bug - Instant crashing of Sonar after switching tracks and buses during playbac
2012/09/25 08:20:54
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Something new with this one, Cake?
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Re:!!! BIG bug - Instant crashing of Sonar after switching tracks and buses during playbac
2012/09/25 08:33:17
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My sound Design project with 4 busses, 48 audio tracks (No synths but tons of FX) and a Video channel crashes every time I switch from video view to any of the busses on the console view. Then it does that sonarDPR.exe not releasing the process malarky.
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BluerecordingStudios
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Re:!!! BIG bug - Instant crashing of Sonar after switching tracks and buses during playbac
2012/10/01 05:33:42
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New QuickFix addresses this issue, now it works like charm. Thank you Cake
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Re:!!! BIG bug - Instant crashing of Sonar after switching tracks and buses during playbac
2012/10/01 13:14:26
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Bill Jackson [Cakewalk ] Hey guys, Our team is investigating this issue right now. Those of you who experience this in any reproducible way: would you mind reporting the steps here?: http://www.cakewalk.com/support/contact/problemreport.aspx It will help us keep track of reports and scenarios. And ultimately, it will help us get it fixed faster. Thanks. Hi Bill I have just send steps to reproduce (confirmed by another user) in CWBRN-11414. There is also a thread with the steps here http://forum.cakewalk.com/tm.aspx?m=2677886 This is with Quick Fix in place Cheers Grif
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