X2 and M Tron PRO

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2012/09/25 23:53:22 (permalink)

X2 and M Tron PRO

Does anybody have this plugin to test something for me in X2?  I am getting way too much note drift to be realistic on alot of the samples.

One in particular is the BASS ACCORDIAN... if I hold down a note for the complete 8 seconds, I can hear it drift almost semi tones in both directions.

Can you confirm this on your system please?

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Jim


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    Glyn Barnes
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    Re:X2 and M Tron PRO 2012/09/25 23:56:45 (permalink)
    I can test it but it won't be for another week I am afraid.

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    Re:X2 and M Tron PRO 2012/09/26 05:23:35 (permalink)
    I did a quick test by putting Guitar Rig's tuner in the fx bin on the track with M-Tron Pro.  I noticed up to 15 cents movement on some of the notes; some had only 6 cents fluctuation over the 8 seconds; others seem to be more "stable" with little drift.  

    I wonder if this is just the "authenticity" of the tapes that were sampled; perhaps the tapes had that drift on them.  If I remember they were very temperamental.
    Anyway, there was drifting that was noticeable on a tuner.  Hope that helps.





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    Re:X2 and M Tron PRO 2012/09/26 06:38:37 (permalink)
    Thanks for the feedback... the odd thing here is that sometimes the drift disappears and other times it is unbearable.  When I was using the 32 bit version under X1, I had the same problem but I am BETA testing the x64 version and under X1, the drift was gone completely.  

    Now, with X2 and the x64 version, this unbearable pitch drifting is back.

    Hmmmm

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    Re:X2 and M Tron PRO 2012/09/26 06:56:43 (permalink)
    jkleban


    I am BETA testing the x64 version 


    Now that is good news, as long as they get it working properly of course. Hopefully they will do a 64 bit MiniMonsta too.

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    Re:X2 and M Tron PRO 2012/09/26 08:13:18 (permalink)
    jkleban


    Thanks for the feedback... the odd thing here is that sometimes the drift disappears and other times it is unbearable.  When I was using the 32 bit version under X1, I had the same problem but I am BETA testing the x64 version and under X1, the drift was gone completely.  

    Now, with X2 and the x64 version, this unbearable pitch drifting is back.

    Hmmmm

    Jim

    Considering these only have a single sample per key, the drift should either exist on a note, or not be present at all. Sounds like you should report as a bug to G-Media.

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    Re:X2 and M Tron PRO 2012/09/26 13:30:30 (permalink)
    i'm using both minimonsta and m-tron pro as x64 native plugs (as i understand it, they've only the installers left to finish before coming out of beta, and the instruments both seem fine to me) so i will check & report back, but with one caveat: it won't be in x2 as i don't have it, but rather live & s1v2 (both x64 hosts)

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    Re:X2 and M Tron PRO 2012/09/26 13:58:01 (permalink)
    I've got the original MTron not the Pro.  But I'll check er out.

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    Re:X2 and M Tron PRO 2012/09/26 19:22:46 (permalink)
    To me it is so bad (but not bad always) that I might just do a clip so you guys that hear a "wow and flutter" can confirm that the drift is as bad as the audio.

    It is very strange.

    Will keep you posted.

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    Well, I decided to record the horrible pitch wandering but you are not going to believe this but... the terrible pitch wandering has stopped with the exact same patch, loaded into the same signal chain, playing back the exact same MIDI tracks...  Now, I am thinking that since I didn't turn my DAW off since yesterday, perhaps GFORCE actually emulates that once the TRON warms up, it is more stable?  NAH.... but who knows.
    post edited by jkleban - 2012/09/26 21:51:15

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    Re:X2 and M Tron PRO 2012/09/29 14:17:50 (permalink)
    reporting back: like cecelius2, just a small (<15c) drift here which i assume is "authentic"ness, but nothing like a semi-tone, the dll is v1.0.0.50... hth

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    Re:X2 and M Tron PRO 2012/09/29 15:26:46 (permalink)
    PWAL. thanks for the follow up on the test. What is weird is the pitch drift seems to go away and return randomly?  I thought maybe a controller was active in another track(s) assigned to the same MIDI out channel but even when I solo'ed the TRON, there it would be....

    It's gone now again.. but it will return.  It always seems to be at its worst when I first load the MTRON plug into a new project?

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    Re:X2 and M Tron PRO 2012/09/29 15:48:17 (permalink)
    weird... do let gforce know about it

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    Re:X2 and M Tron PRO 2012/09/29 20:50:22 (permalink)
    I did let them know... that's how I got on the BETA team... the x64 version seemed to lessen the problem but X2 brought it back (not as bad as X1 and the 32 bit MTRON).

    Thanks,
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    Re:X2 and M Tron PRO 2012/09/30 02:56:45 (permalink)
    also, test it in another host to rule out host-specific issues - savihost is x64 and free

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