Tips required- mixing a loops based song

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2012/09/26 12:47:07 (permalink)

Tips required- mixing a loops based song

Hi there.  I have constructed my first song using loops within Sonar X2.  Wondering what mixing tips you may have.  For example, do you use a common reverb on all loops?  How do you deal with the fact that the drums are in a stereo track as opposed to one track per kit piece?  Any other tips welcome....
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    Re:Tips required- mixing a loops based song 2012/09/26 14:40:15 (permalink)
    This would be up to you.  With loops, simply treat them like any other mix you do. If a track needs verb throw it in. I'm guessing that EQ will probably not be to much of an issue.

    And stereo drums....well that's normally how I work anyway...so EQ and verb them to taste. 

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    Re:Tips required- mixing a loops based song 2012/09/27 15:51:26 (permalink)
    All the loops are in stereo.  Other than drums, do you bounce most to mono?
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    Re:Tips required- mixing a loops based song 2012/09/27 16:21:27 (permalink)
    Even the bass loops? If the keyboard/synth loops, yes, but often electric bass loops are mono (unless effects were applied upon the loop's recording) I'm not sure iwth an Acoustic Bass - I'm sure it's mono (but there's a hint of stereo in there somewhere)

    Same with guitars, they're mono, but it'll come through stereo if effects (chorus/verb/delay, etc.) were applied from the guitar's amp.

    Likewise, if you made tone adjustments (bass, mid, treble) via the amp/instrument, they'd come through, too. Make sure you have monitoring on, so you can hear the effects "auditioned" before you print/apply them.

    Keyboards are polyphonic, therefore, stereo based naturally. So, you'd have to convert the track to get it to sound monophonic.

    I think was Danny who said: Get the sound from your source right. If it goes in badly, it'll come out badly.

    When it comes to bouncing in mono in general, that's more often than not a brilliant way to gauge how everything sits in the mix. (If you're mixing in stereo, simply put everything in the middle)

    The benefit of mixing in mono means that you won't hear any artifacts (ie: effect tails) and if you have things panned to the sides (extreme), you'll only hear what's on those sides. Again, the tracks have to be 100% Left or Right. (When Mastering, a technique called M/S EQing - Mid/Side EQing is done most often - that's a whole different topic though).

    Again, it's recommended that you do mix in mono using one of the methods I describe; however, you will usually miss out on the "artifacts," but the dry mix portion is the most important - ie: the cake itself. The effects are just icing.

    I don't know if this answers your question. If not, I apologize. I'm sure you'll get much better answers than the one I provided.

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    Re:Tips required- mixing a loops based song 2012/09/27 16:48:58 (permalink)
    The one track drums can sometimes be troublesome especially if it's not the way you want it to sound.
    Especially if the kik or snare is too loud.
    You could always duplicate the loop (make your own) using samplers and vstis so that pasrts have their own tracks.
    Or, lots of enveloping.


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    Re:Tips required- mixing a loops based song 2012/09/27 17:26:00 (permalink)
    If they are packaged loops they are ususally already effected - comp, eq etc.  Reverb, not so much.  You can of course eq etc..  And add reverb - probably bus to similiar kinds of loops.

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