64 bit?

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2012/09/29 14:59:16 (permalink)

64 bit?

Perhaps I should have done a forum search before asking this but, I have a 64 bit Windows 7 operating system and X1 installed in 32 bit.  I just installed X2 in 64 bit but I'm not sure of the advantages.  Will I be able to open up X1 projects with the 64 bit X2?  I've tried, one opened one didn't and there was an error message after which I got a windows message saying that compatibility settings had been turned on for X2.  What about 32 bit plugins?  I really like the Cakewalk Fx Reverb and I understand that that probably won't work in 64 bit X2.  Any way to make it work?  Any suggestions will be appreciated.
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    garrigus
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    Re:64 bit? 2012/09/29 15:19:40 (permalink)
    Yes, X1 projects should load, however, some plug-ins may not. X2 64-bit will run some 32-bit VST plug-ins but not DirectX. The Cakewalk Fx Reverb is DirectX so it can only be run in the 32-bit version of SONAR. You can install X2 32-bit as well, if you'd like. Cakewalk allows that.

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    Re:64 bit? 2012/09/29 15:23:41 (permalink)
    If you really, really want to run 32bit DX stuff in 64bit SONAR you can try dxshell referenced here http://www.kvraudio.com/f...w.php?t=177538&start=0
    A few people have reported some success with it. YMMV
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    Re:64 bit? 2012/09/29 20:34:22 (permalink)
    In my experience Sonar 64bit is better sounding than 32bit. Perhaps you should try out Breverb, which is 64bit and can sound very good but requires a bit of tweakng.  That's my 2 cent worth of advice.
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    Re:64 bit? 2012/09/30 02:23:34 (permalink)
    Thanks for the replies and help.  I had high hopes for Breverb but, so far, have been disappointed.  It sounds like Lexicon Pantheon to me which has always sounded too grainy to me.  I haven't spent much time tweaking it though so the jury is still out.  I'm glad to hear that 64 bit sounds better than the 32 bit version.  Are there any other advantages to running X2 in 64 bit as opposed to 32 bit?
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    Re:64 bit? 2012/09/30 02:58:01 (permalink)
    Just an fyi, there is no difference in sound between 32-bit and 64-bit versions of the software. Both versions use the same sound engine and have the 64-bit double precision engine available, which isn't related to a 64-bit OS. One of the main differences of the 64-bit version of the software is the ability to use more physical memory, which can be very useful if you load large sample libraries, etc. I'm stuck with 3GB on Win7 32-bit.

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    Re:64 bit? 2012/09/30 03:31:13 (permalink)
    64 and 32 bit versions can co-exist on the same system. So you can install both while you check out compatibility issues.

    I have not used a 32 bit version Sonar since 8.5 was released (Oct of 2009??) and never missed it. The main advantage is access to more RAM but some people claim reduce CPU load too. I have never thought it sounded better and I don't think there is any reason it would, as StepD pointed out the 64 bit double precision engine which will affect audio quality is available in both versions.

     

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    Re:64 bit? 2012/09/30 08:58:48 (permalink)
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    If you really, really want to run 32bit DX stuff in 64bit SONAR you can try dxshell referenced here http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/printview.php?t=177538&start=0
    A few people have reported some success with it. YMMV

    I have just downloaded http://www.xlutop.com/buzz/zip/dxshell_v1.0.4b.zip from the above website.
     
    I have experimented with it on Cakewalk FX3 reverb and it works. Its good to have FX3 back in my Windows 7 64Bit setup.
     
    Its quite a different reverb from the others to make it worthwhile for everyone to have it and its now free.
    post edited by aries - 2012/09/30 09:29:27
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    Re:64 bit? 2012/09/30 13:36:18 (permalink)
    thanks for the info..Glad to hear that the dxshell works for FX3 Reverb.  That saves me from having to take a quest for another reverb to replace it and spend money that I don't have. Is there a place to download it (FX3) on the Cakewalk site or should I install it from an earlier version disk?
    I don't currently have it on this computer.  Actually, I didn't use X1 much.  I had lots of projects going in 8.5 and didn't want to transfer them to the new format.  They are all done now.  I did some small projects on my home (not studio) computer with X1.  Loved it and have all of the modules, just haven't loaded all of the Cakewalk plugs that I use all the time on my studio setup.
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    Re:64 bit? 2012/09/30 13:47:55 (permalink)
    FX3 is now free and can be "ordered" and downloaded from the CW store. I do not believe it was ever included in a previous release of SONAR.
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    Re:64 bit? 2012/09/30 18:52:37 (permalink)
    I've dumped all those old Cakewalk FX effects in favor of the newer effects. 

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