Disappointing day in X2

things weren't going too badly in X2 until today.  I do like the workflow improvements and new features. I thought it was one project that was problematic but I worked on another and had more freezes.

Been working in X1 on an intensive project... lots of synths, midi tracks, VVocal, vocoder, VSTs.  Then upgraded to X2 with mixed results on this particular file. Program crashed 3 times loading the file.  Then, froze about 1 min into playback.  Looked up what may be causing the issues, so got some ideas.  Got it open, tried to edit a PSYN track in PRV...freeze.  Restarted computer.  Same thing.  Thought I'd try to render the VVocal lines in case they were part of the problem.  Got that done but got a freeze when I tried to reassign the vocal track to a Pentagon vocoder.  Opened the file in safe mode to see if that fixed it.  Freeze again after working a few mins.

Switched to a diff project.  That went well for a while, then got a freeze after inserting TH2 in a buss and sending tracks to it. Then got another freeze when trying to add an Amplitube Ampeg VST to a bass track.  

Are there any known buggy VSTs with X2?
Are there any particular thing from X1 (like VVocal tracks) that need rendered to new tracks to function properly in X2?  Does freezing work or must you render and insert the new track?
Any issues with moving the project folders to a diff drive if I point the project/audio prefs to that drive?
Other ideas?

whens the last time you updated the system !!


what do you mean updated?  Win 7 gets regular updates... ran chkdisk recently... ran the released X2 build.


I worked on one of the projects the past couple of days... only one crash, again trying to insert Ampeg SVG.  Going to see if there is an update on their site.  One funny thing... I used a Breverb in the prochannel panel, set it up to sound good; thought it was funny that I only needed to bring the wet down to -3 db... on startup later the breverb kicked in at the -3db setting and I needed to update it to like -30db...

It might be worthwhile forwarding that project to CW for review.   I'm pretty sure they can debug the .cwp format to see where things are failing.
 

Maarker: im still following your post, tell me the make and model of your motherboard and video card !

Today seemed better... been deleting non-sonar vsts and found out that IKMultimedia guitar sims need to run thru the Amplitube 3 64 bit vst.  Are there ANY MORE KNOWN vst specific issues with the program?  I have an old fav called MDE-X which I am thinking may be a problem.  May even be an old 16 bit vst but always ran fine in all other daws.

Had one freeze when autosave kicked in while playing, so I disabled it.  Still get occasional strange stuff that may be my own issue and not the program... had an episode where the snap wouldn't snap to 1/8 like I had selected until I recycled it... 

I like the program and workflow if some of these bugs were worked out... I guess I usually don't get the new release of a program.

There does seem to be a conflict of some kind with AmpliTube 3. One day I couldn't open a project I was working on that had AmpliTube, it would keep crashing. It had opened successfully several times before, but after it didn't open once, it wouldn't open again. 

I grabbed the latest AmpliTube update. In Sonar, I use a 64-bit system so I made sure it "saw" the 64-bit version and not the 32-bit one. I then opened the project in safe mode, inserted AmpliTube, recalled the presets I'd used originally, and "saved as" the project. 

I'm not sure which one of these changes was the fix, but I haven't had any problems since.

I'm running a template with hmm lets see, 3 doubletracked guitars, 1 solo guitar in mono and a bass, that's 8 instances of Amplitube3, never had any crashes caused by amplitube as far as I know.

I only get crashes when loading or deleting random vsts, as soon as they are loaded and going it's pretty stable.

I only have the 64 bit version installed though, I'm runnning 100% 64 bit so there may be something with mixed 32/64 bit that causes it?