Contemporary Music Theory - Where To Begin

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Re:Contemporary Music Theory - Where To Begin 2012/10/09 15:32:03 (permalink)
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Just my thoughts on music theory (and I'm college trained) if you're interested in creating something halfway original stop trying to analyze someone else's music.
 
   
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Re:Contemporary Music Theory - Where To Begin 2012/10/09 21:12:53 (permalink)
hey Super:

I wasn't trying to discourage you.

I just don't think you need a college education or expensive courses to analyze simple pop songs. Just a good basic foundation; and there is enough free info on the net to accomplish this.

and as Russ and Danny already suggested ear training is highly recommended. Start by singing intervals. Do Re Mi Fa So is a great place to begin. Start with humming a note and try to hit a sixth above; a fourth above; a fifth below. Are you good at this?

If not, practice, practice practice. Ear training, in my opinion, is more important than theory; If you can hear it you don't have to analyze it.

Analyzing simple chords is not difficult; Even beginning musicians should quickly hear the difference in a major triad and a minor triad. The difference in a major 7th and a dominant 7th is easily heard. Suspended chords and diminished chords are also easily distinquishable.

Look for the bass note to be the root of the chord (in most cases); If not the root, look for a 5th, 3rd or simply a passing note to the next chord. If you have trouble analyzing a chord look at the very next chord; It can be a clue.

Don't make it more complicated than it is; a C major chord will sound totally different with the root, third or fifth as the bass note; but it's still a C major chord.

Good luck.

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Re:Contemporary Music Theory - Where To Begin 2012/10/12 02:31:47 (permalink)
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Hi Everyone.

I've been trying to find out how to analyze contemporary music, such as Michael Jackson's Billy Jean, any of the The Beatles's songs, old Nintendo songs, Jazz (house, smooth, etc.), 90's rock and so on. I took a few classes on tonal harmony, but those are for 1800's hymns. What kind of music theory is used to help write contemporary songs? Where do I even begin to look? I checked out Berklee, but they charge 1k for a class (that's pretty much two years worth of vst instruments for me). Are there any really good books, online classes references, etc.?

Also, I have a Final Fantasy piano book that lists the chords above certain measures such as A min and E7th. I understand that those are the chords for the current measure, but how can you really tell if it's a A min chord or a 13th chord in the 5th inversion or some crazy thing like that?
Hey for online class http://playwhatyouwant.com/Welcome.html
He my teacher right now,He knows all about contemporary music. "except with me..I do classical" ha ha


Here good chord progression for contemporary 1,4 & 5 
Example for Blues 1,1,1,1 or  4,1,1,1 or 5,5,1,1 
In contemporary music chords don't change much nor use sus chords really.  
Also listen by ear to play long with them. "that how taught myself Chopin funeral march" ha ha


For 2nd question the answer if not mistaken depends on the scale your in, Chord progression to.  
Could you post the pg on here?  
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