Acess Panel Operation Questions.

About the switching: I have the same problem since day one of X1. I came to the conclusion, that my old 8.5 projects "work as planned" whereas in any new X1 project switching between maximized (or set to a certain size) multidock-windows via the buttons (without closing and stuff) did NOT work.

Therefor I still work with templates originally started in 8.5.

There is only one minor bug, where switching does not work until I hit console at least once. E.g. I'm in PRV and want to go to TRACKS ... does not work. First CONSOLE then TRACKS ... works. After that, every view works as planned.


Could you test this with old projects? (in X1 and X2)

Still no X2 here.

>I noticed in X1 the switching would have to be in a sequence ( but I always for get what )

Wow, didn't know that. Have to try it out (once again ...).


If we all together could get to the bottom of this issue, we might be able to post it in Ryan's thread to get attention. Switching between views is absolutely essential and should work flawlessly.

For me it (almost) does - but only in X1 with 8.5 projects/templates. (even when then heavily edited [or even completely blanked] and saved in X1)

Seems as if it's set as a midi input rather than control surface. You could try to check the midi device options (surface, in-port, out-port, ...). Maybe it's a X2 specific bug, though.

If you're triggering notes then you've almost certainly got your IN and OUT ports set wrong in Preferences > MIDI > Control Surfaces.

Thanks John I will double check the In and out ports.

I know i don't have IO VS700 selected so I will check and see whats going on.

Are you having any issues with the Track / Console and PRV buttons ?

So... if you don't maximize the PRV, you can switch between veiws using the console buttons? Can you maximize/minimize the PRV with the console? If you minimize the PRV with the mouse or keyboard, can you switch veiws? Could you do it before X2?

In regards to the Access Panel issue I have my findings are....

Track to Console and console to track no problem.

If I hit Piano roll it comes up in a floating window and when hitting track or console you can see it change behind.
To get back to track or console view I have to hit close.

If I max the PRV on screen then there is no way to jump to track or Console with out closing prv... When opening PRV it then will be a floating window again..

Is this Normal ?

Puzzling that about the note triggering. I've had the console triggering notes before, but it's always been due it being set the way I described. Your config sounds correct to me.

Ok, I just tested X1 again (don't have X2 yet) regarding the VIEW issue:

This is how I work: Multidock contains Pianoroll and Console. Those Multidock-"windows" are not maximized, they just fill half the screen (adjustable by moving the horizontal bar that devides the Multidock from the usual track-view. I switch through them via the buttons just fine. Pressing TRACK simply minimizes the Multidock and shows Tracks only. Pressing PIANOROLL or CONSOLE opens the Multidock-"windows" again.

(This also works, if your Multidock-"windows" are maximized. Btw. maximizing and de-maximizing works with the mouse only, however for me it's not necessary to do that from the console. Still, this could be implemented via CMD+PIANOROLL for example. But that maybe should be low priority.)


So, when does that work: It works only with projects, that originated in 8.5 (and were changed and saved in X1). It does not work with fresh X1 projects, because then, as soon as I press TRACK to minimize the Multidock, it won't ever open up again via the VS700c console. Why? I have no idea. This drove me almost crazy years ago, but I simply sticked to "old" 8.5 templates since then. BUT: I just opened several X1 tutorial projects, and it works there too !! So it's just the fresh X1 projects, that don't work for me.

There is only one other bug once in a while, that I cannot replicate right now: sometimes the TRACK button (to minimize the Multidock entirely) would have no effect, unless I press CONSOLE at least once. This is a minor bug though.


Since (expect for this thread) I've never heard complaints about the view buttons - what are your experiences with fresh X1 projects (aka "open>new project") and the view buttons?

Norrie


Its been a long time since Ive really sat with X1 for a long period and its no longer on the system but today I did find that I have to have PRV Track and Console all docked to make sure I can change screens as much as I want.

If I have them as floating windows so I can have them maxed then every time I change to Console or PRV it will not hold the size I had it at.

Not a Problem I can use it docked :)

I never used PRV or Console view outside the Multidock. :)
You can max out the Multidock by double-clicking on the title of a docked item (e.g. "Piano Roll").
(At least you can in X1, I'm quite sure it works too in X2.)

The only workaround would be to dock the PRV and console, double-click on their title to get the multidock as big as possible, and then hide the transport bar, the browser and the inspector.

Now, although in the multidock, the PRV is almost full screen.

Norrie


@John

Still no luck with stopping the VS from triggering the PRV.
Although its not triggering any sounds I can still see it hitting the notes in PRV

My Settings are.

Control Surfaces > In Port CONSOLE (VS-700) Out Port CONSOLE (VS-700)

In Devices I have ticked. Inputs

DV-7 (VS-700)
V-lINK (VS-700)
FANTOM VS (VS-700)
IO MIDI (VS-700)
I don't have IO (VS-700) Ticked.

Outputs

CONSOLE (VS-700)
DV-7 (VS-700)
FANTOM VS (VS-700)
IO MIDI (VS-700)
I don't have IO (VS-700) Ticked.

You do not show the Console checked in the inputs. Immediate problem, it should be there and be checked. Why do you have DV-7 checked? What are you using DV-7 for? If you're not using it, uncheck it.