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Does anybody own a Xils Lab synth? What synth? Have you owned it for a year +? How is t

Does anybody own a Xilx Lab synth? What synth? Have you owned it for a year +? How is Customer support?

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    Re:Does anybody own a Xils Lab synth? What synth? Have you owned it for a year +? How i 2012/10/11 17:37:03 (permalink)
    I've got the synthi - lite, and it works well.  Never had to use customer support in the last couple of years.

    Why?  You planning on breaking their product ;-)

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    Re:Does anybody own a Xils Lab synth? What synth? Have you owned it for a year +? How i 2012/10/11 17:49:19 (permalink)
    I don't know too much about em..  lol..  but I follow CM on Facebook, and their latest synth Oxium got a write up..  Its really cool... 

    I plan on breaking it :p


    lol..  / joking..


    I just wanted to see if there were some users on this forum.  Cause it seems like a new company..

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    Re:Does anybody own a Xils Lab synth? What synth? Have you owned it for a year +? How i 2012/10/11 18:31:58 (permalink)
    Nothing but glowing reviews on kvr for Oxium. So many that there was a backlash resulting in several "enough about Oxium, already!" threads. 

    They do have a demo.


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    Re:Does anybody own a Xils Lab synth? What synth? Have you owned it for a year +? How i 2012/10/11 19:43:16 (permalink)
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     Nothing but glowing reviews on kvr


      I don't read Kvr..  "A mean spirited group of people, who wish to stroke each others toenails; and ban all others who don't subscribe to their narrow world views of sanctimonious selfishness." 

    Incidentally, I've got the Oxium Demo installed right now..  but um..  So its a real company then?   I asked on Gearslutz, and got no response.

    I don't like buying plugins, and then you find out, "a company you don't know much about falls off the map."  Ah..  I don't know..  I'm jonesing for a new synth..  I tried the Retrologue, maybe I ought to go with that..  It is nearly half the price...

    But this Oxium is way cool..   The filters sound better on the Retrologue..  Maybe I am wrong?  I guess Oxium is a bit more complex, it probably takes a while to learn a little...

    hmm...

    Did you buy Oxium then?  Do you like it?




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    Re:Does anybody own a Xils Lab synth? What synth? Have you owned it for a year +? How i 2012/10/11 20:34:01 (permalink)
    I, too, am on a quest for a new synthesizer. Still looking, though. Tried (and liked), but did not buy Oxium. 

    Diva would have been my choice but my aged CPU isn't up to it.   

    I mostly agree with your assessment of kvr, btw. 

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    Re:Does anybody own a Xils Lab synth? What synth? Have you owned it for a year +? How i 2012/10/11 21:25:48 (permalink)
    I currently own the PolyKB II player and I owned the Xils 3 LE version in the past (I sold it as it didn't really click with me).  The PolyKB Player is nice for a little different flavor than  most of the synths  I own.

    Here's a story about their support:  I had trouble installing the PolyKB player (due to inadequate instructions by the third party seller...no fault of Xils lab), so I emailed them.  Within 15 minutes ON A SATURDAY no less, I had an email from them with a complete answer that solved my install problem.  I thanked them for the quick support, and I even got a response to that saying they would contact the third party seller to tell them to update their install instructions.    Support doesn't get any better than that.
    As I understand it, Xavier (the main guy at Xils lab) used to work for Arturia.  You'll notice that the preset menus are almost identical to those found in Arturia synths.  I think most agree that Xils lab synths sound better than the Arturia ones, however.  



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    Re:Does anybody own a Xils Lab synth? What synth? Have you owned it for a year +? How i 2012/10/11 22:16:43 (permalink)
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    I, too, am on a quest for a new synthesizer. Still looking, though. Tried (and liked), but did not buy Oxium.

    Diva would have been my choice



    I've demo'd Diva and think its amazing. But.. As amazing as I think it is, it just isn't clicking with me. Its sound quality is awsome though.

    I just tried Stein's Retrologue and Padshop Pro...... They are great!! I was just about to buy em, when I saw the Oxium Article on CM or Music Radar.. I was just, "reading the FB newsfeed, and found out about this new Oxium Synth..


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    Xavier (the main guy at Xils lab) used to work for Arturia. You'll notice that the preset menus are almost identical to those found in Arturia synths.


    Wow! Not because I think his synths and arturias are very simalar... "wow," because I think this Oxium is so different. I didn't notice at all. Now I am totally blown away.

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    Re:Does anybody own a Xils Lab synth? What synth? Have you owned it for a year +? How i 2012/10/11 22:44:18 (permalink)
    Some of the other synths that I've recently demoed that impressed me, in no particular order:
    SynthMaster
    Twin2
    Helix
    Zebra
    Tassman
    OPX
    A.C.E.


    In case there are any on that list you haven't tried yet.


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    Re:Does anybody own a Xils Lab synth? What synth? Have you owned it for a year +? How i 2012/10/11 23:30:45 (permalink)
    A lot of the synths you mentioned..  have the same problem as my synths...  "Age."  

    5 years is a long time in the software industry..  I feel like my synths, and plenty of those on your list, are showing age.  and when I play with Oxium...  I totally see, "the age my synths are showing."

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    Re:Does anybody own a Xils Lab synth? What synth? Have you owned it for a year +? How i 2012/10/12 01:27:43 (permalink)
    Yea, linear, Xils is a real company and has been around many years.

    If you are into sound design sounds Alchemy is great.

    Too my mind a good soft synth (and physical ones, too - I've still got my minimoog and arp) doesn't get old.  New stuff is nice, but it is amazing what you can twist out of an old favorite if you come to it w/ an open mind.

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    Re:Does anybody own a Xils Lab synth? What synth? Have you owned it for a year +? How i 2012/10/12 02:33:39 (permalink)
    I should stay away from these topics. I've got more than enough soft synths to keep me busy to the day I die, but then I read something like this and I want to try out someone else's suggestion.

    As for synths getting old linear, they may be old, but still do the business. As long as I get two oscs with the usual range of simple waves, some adsr env gens, filters etc. I'm a happy bunny. So what I sometimes look for is a new way of manipulating everything and how well the GUI is laid out.

    So, I'm off to see what Oxium is all about lol

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    Re:Does anybody own a Xils Lab synth? What synth? Have you owned it for a year +? How i 2012/10/12 09:23:56 (permalink)
      As for the Arturia & Xils connection, you can see this interview here: Xils Lab Interview
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    Re:Does anybody own a Xils Lab synth? What synth? Have you owned it for a year +? How i 2012/10/12 11:19:35 (permalink)
    Yes, five years is a long time in the software world. However, it's also more time to root out bugs and refine the user interface. In such a fast-paced environment, far too many products remain in a perpetual state of half-finished-ness. 

    It takes a good 18 months or so for a new program just to settle down and stabilize, longer if it's very complex. What distinguishes a world-class vendor is what happens to the product next; is it abandoned, or does it continue to be enhanced and refined? 

    I would not reject a 5-year-old synth out of hand. I'd look at its history and the history of the company or individual that created it. Omnisphere is close to 5 years old, and few other products are anywhere close to catching up to it. Kontakt is more than 5 years old and over that time has gone from a minor player to ruling the sampler world.





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    Re:Does anybody own a Xils Lab synth? What synth? Have you owned it for a year +? How i 2012/10/14 22:13:49 (permalink)
    another voice from the wilderness...

    These days I've been on a real emulation kick, using FM8, Pro-53, the GForce synths, the Xils 3, and so on. But it is a phase, and I'll outgrow it soon enough<G>.

    When I do return to synths that don't try to recreate my favorite oldies my main synths are Tassman (which I picked up with a version of Sonar a long time ago but continued to upgrade), and Alchemy. Between these two there's probably little that I can't do - they are both very deep, and I doubt I'll ever master either one!

    And then there are all the synths that came with various Komplete packages...

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    Re:Does anybody own a Xils Lab synth? What synth? Have you owned it for a year +? How i 2012/10/15 00:11:16 (permalink)
    I like deep synths kinda sorta..  I really like having Rapture; because its deep, albeit not endless like Max.  My music mission statement could actually be something like, "consistent, efficient simplicity."  Synthesizers are not something I am buying all the time..  I much prefer to buy a new EQ, or a new Filter..  (I've got my eye on Cytomic's Drop.  There seems to be a beta out now for Mac.  I think this is going to be a, "must have product," when it is released.)

    Synthesizers have a learning curve far beyond most, if not all eq's, verbs, delays, filters, effects and other devices.  For me, what intersests me most in a synthesizer is its sound, and not its infinite ability to generate complex sound-scapes that could quite easily take 10, 20, and no doubt 30 hours of sound design per patch.

    So when I say my synths are sounding a little aged, it means that on a personal level, since the release of synth squad, I have noticed several developers pushing current limits not by creating complex modular architectures capable of sound-scape from galaxies far away... Pushing the limits by creating software synths that have a unique and beautiful sound quality to their raw sounds..



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    Re:Does anybody own a Xils Lab synth? What synth? Have you owned it for a year +? How i 2012/10/15 11:17:38 (permalink)
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    Does anybody own a Xilx Lab synth? What synth? Have you owned it for a year +? How is Customer support?

    Cheers

    LP...I haven't used it personally....I did listen to the demos....

    You can get an LE version from Musicians Friend for $39....then I'm sure there would be an upgrade path
    from there if you liked it....that way..if you didn't like it...you'd only be out $39 and not $179.


    http://www.musiciansfriend.com/pro-audio/xils-lab-xils3le-virtual-instrument


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    Re:Does anybody own a Xils Lab synth? What synth? Have you owned it for a year +? How i 2012/10/15 11:21:39 (permalink)
    Just read that the full version requires an Ilok or eLicenser....


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    Re:Does anybody own a Xils Lab synth? What synth? Have you owned it for a year +? How i 2012/10/15 11:26:54 (permalink)
    I also just read that if you have the lite version and upgrade to the full version that you
    get free upgrades for life.....not too shabby...

    http://www.xils-lab.com/pages/XILS3LE_FULL-version-upgrade.html#Upgrade


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    Re:Does anybody own a Xils Lab synth? What synth? Have you owned it for a year +? How i 2012/10/15 12:18:40 (permalink)
    Hey cclarry, Oxium is serial key only, which imo is very, very cool!  :-)


    Unfortunately I own one Arturia Product, and I know exactly how eLicenser works, and I will not buy any more products that use this kind of copy protect...  I dislike how long it takes to initialize a plugin for use in a daw, and dislike the syncrosoft update procedures, and I feel like this is, "punishing copy protect."


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    Re:Does anybody own a Xils Lab synth? What synth? Have you owned it for a year +? How i 2012/10/15 14:55:30 (permalink)
    I hear you there LP...

    If I didn't already have both an eLicenser (Cubase) and an Ilok (Pro Tools)
    I probably wouldn't have any of the plugs that require them either (Softube),
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    Re:Does anybody own a Xils Lab synth? What synth? Have you owned it for a year +? How i 2012/10/16 08:48:15 (permalink)
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     How is Customer support?


    In my experience, nothing short of superb. They replied to my request submitted on their support site and to subsequent email within hours and speedily resolved my issue.
     
    The issue - lost serial number for my XILS 3 LE - 100% my fault.

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    In my experience, nothing short of superb. They replied to my request submitted on their support site and to subsequent email within hours and speedily resolved my issue.


    Awesome!! I wrote them too, "just to see if they were awake."  Xavier responded within hours..   



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