Resolved: X2 -- How do I make now-time snap according to snap settings?

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2012/10/12 11:25:54 (permalink)

Resolved: X2 -- How do I make now-time snap according to snap settings?

I've asked this before, but I'm afraid my question wasn't direct enough, and I didn't get a definitive response. Sorry to ask again.

I played with snap settings, and have tried it at its strongest, most stringent setting -- but still, when I click in the time ruler (in any view), the now time marker lands wherever I click, instead of on the nearest snap position. This makes it very difficult for me to select a range of music -- I end up selecting some notes I don't want to select, or not selecting some notes that I do want to select.
Thanks!
Mike

post edited by mleghorn - 2012/10/13 16:13:59
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    Re:X2 -- How do I make now-time snap according to snap settings? 2012/10/12 11:46:23 (permalink)
    It should simply be a matter of turning snap on and checking the strength but I guess you are already doing that.

    If so I haven't much idea as to why it isn't working. The snap button is presumably lit?
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    Re:X2 -- How do I make now-time snap according to snap settings? 2012/10/12 14:29:34 (permalink)
    FastBikerBoy


    It should simply be a matter of turning snap on and checking the strength but I guess you are already doing that.

    If so I haven't much idea as to why it isn't working. The snap button is presumably lit?

    Yes, I've done all that, and the snap button is lit.
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    Re:X2 -- How do I make now-time snap according to snap settings? 2012/10/12 14:32:21 (permalink)
    Is it all projects? There's def something askew as it works okay here and I'm guessing by the lack of complaints on here it's working for others to.

    Is that with manual snap or the smart grid or both?

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    Re:X2 -- How do I make now-time snap according to snap settings? 2012/10/12 14:51:26 (permalink)
    If I am reading this right the Now Time is not going to snap itself to an event.  To me this a selection issue not a snap issue.

    Then again I could be all wrong.  I always thought snap was for notes and events not for the now time. However the now time can be used as a snap point.

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    Re:X2 -- How do I make now-time snap according to snap settings? 2012/10/12 14:53:56 (permalink)
    Is anyone else disturbed by the fact that none of us appeared to have issues with the way Snap worked in 8.5 and suddenly, there's one or two threads a day about Snap issues, some of which, we're not sure are bugs or just illogical design choices?

    I seriously think Cakewalk needs to rethink Snap, and ask themselves "does it need to be this complicated or would people prefer a simpler Snap?"

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    Re:X2 -- How do I make now-time snap according to snap settings? 2012/10/12 15:00:37 (permalink)
    Funkybot


    Is anyone else disturbed by the fact that none of us appeared to have issues with the way Snap worked in 8.5 and suddenly, there's one or two threads a day about Snap issues, some of which, we're not sure are bugs or just illogical design choices?

    I seriously think Cakewalk needs to rethink Snap, and ask themselves "does it need to be this complicated or would people prefer a simpler Snap?"


    I recall lots of threads on snap and the issues with magnetic strength in 8.5. 

    In X1 the problem was that it became global  and not independent which users wanted. I am unaware of actual bugs being posted.

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    Re:X2 -- How do I make now-time snap according to snap settings? 2012/10/12 15:03:31 (permalink)
    I personally don't see what is complicated about it. I turn it on and it works.

    If anything the complicated thing was the "Magnetic Strength" which was at it's highest when off. Now that was confusing. The new intensity is much easier. IMHO of course.

    TBH I have smart grid on one snap and the other set to a set resolution depending on which view I'm using. (I also use per screenset snap)
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    Re:X2 -- How do I make now-time snap according to snap settings? 2012/10/12 16:56:10 (permalink)
    John & FastBikerBoy:

    There's been a few threads about Snap in X2 also already, so clearly it's not as intuitive as perhaps Cakewalk would have liked. Just within the first few pages of this forum...

    There's this thread: http://forum.cakewalk.com/tm.aspx?m=2690107
    Then there's this one: http://forum.cakewalk.com/tm.aspx?m=2687520

    ...and this one: http://forum.cakewalk.com/tm.aspx?m=2687451

    And this (Scott Garrigus says keybindings should work with Snap settings, they don't): http://forum.cakewalk.com/tm.aspx?m=2685895


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    Re:X2 -- How do I make now-time snap according to snap settings? 2012/10/12 18:29:32 (permalink)
    Not to change direction, but is it possible the O/P is zoomed out to see a large range but the snap is set to 64th notes? I ran into this many moons ago. It was easily verified by changing the snap to whole notes. After doing this I could observe that it was snapping to some place other than the cursor position.

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    Re:X2 -- How do I make now-time snap according to snap settings? 2012/10/13 01:57:25 (permalink)
    Yep that's a possibility. I've just posted a further explanation of how the magnetic or intensity setting works in both X1 & X2 in another thread here

    It's also possible that "snap to zero crossings" is active which may well drag the snap off a little. There are also the landmark settings as well which could also do that.

    @Funkybot - I do take your point that it can be complex but I don't see that as a bad thing, with complexity comes power. In it's simplest form of Smart grid it's very easy. Turn it on and forget about it but there is much more there if needed. AFAIK they are all off by default though so shouldn't really affect a user unless they've turned them on.
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    Re:X2 -- How do I make now-time snap according to snap settings? 2012/10/13 11:49:42 (permalink)
    Thanks everyone for trying so hard to help!

    I got snap to work in the track view, but I still can't get it to work in the PRV.

    I un-checked "Snap to Nearest Audio Zero Crossings", and snap worked correctly in the track view.

    Still, in PRV, despite all my experimenting, the now marker goes wherever I click, instead of to the nearest snap position.

    Is there a separate setting for PRV snap? I can only find one snap preferences window: Preferences -> Customization -> Snap to Grid.

    Thanks, 
    Mike
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    Re:X2 -- How do I make now-time snap according to snap settings? 2012/10/13 12:55:38 (permalink)
    There is a separate snap. Top right hand corner of the PRV. Click on the grid there and it'll open a pop out so you can set it up.

    Having said that global should work if the PRV snap is off. Global needs to on as well for the PRV snap to work.
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    Re:X2 -- How do I make now-time snap according to snap settings? 2012/10/13 14:06:24 (permalink)
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    There is a separate snap. Top right hand corner of the PRV. Click on the grid there and it'll open a pop out so you can set it up.

    Having said that global should work if the PRV snap is off. Global needs to on as well for the PRV snap to work.

    That fixed it, thanks! I didn't realize there was a separate snap in the PRV.
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