Why Sonar for me is still the best DAW

Yup! I've used most of the sequencer software out there and I love SONAR's ability to do most any day-to-day task inside the Track View! 

I got nothing but Sonar stuff.... it works well, it's paid for, and well, is there really a need for more than that? 

One feature of that "R" program I really like and wish SONAR had is route a track to a track.

Now I say this knowing full well SONAR's concept is route a track to a bus.

But..... you cannot freeze a bus in SONAR.

If we could route tracks to tracks and then freeze that would be cool. Not necessary or mandatory but COOL, IMO.

Other than that and the broken solo a drum muti-track audio track when a drum map is deployed, SONAR does everything I need and want.

I have Sonar, CD Architect & Goldwave.

Nothing else matters.

Bristol_Jonesey


I have Sonar, CD Architect & Goldwave.

Nothing else matters.

coffee? :)

tomixornot




Regarding track to bus, while you can route many tracks into a bus, I know it's not possible to route one track to 2 bus right.. ? The bus selection simply didn't allow this. I was thinking if this is possible, I can experiment with fattening up some effects without having to duplicate tracks.

Is this possible on other DAWs ?

What exactly are you trying to do?

Bristol_Jonesey

tomixornot




Regarding track to bus, while you can route many tracks into a bus, I know it's not possible to route one track to 2 bus right.. ? The bus selection simply didn't allow this. I was thinking if this is possible, I can experiment with fattening up some effects without having to duplicate tracks.

Is this possible on other DAWs ?

What exactly are you trying to do?

I was reading from another thread about making a guitar sound bigger, by cloning a track and push one track ahead or back, then pan one left another right. I was thinking if 2 bus may be setup to do this instead of having to duplicate another track.

Bristol_Jonesey


Well the best and surest way to make a guitar sound bigger is to record it twice - get both takes as tight together through your playing as you can, then pan them to opposite sides.

The clone & nudge method has flaws - it might work, but IME 90% of the time it doesn't.

I still don't see how routing it direct to your 2 bus will help, short of putting a delay on it, but you can do this with any bus, not just your 2 bus.

+1
 
IMO I think the extra value in the second take is that by nature, it is impossible to get two tracks recorded identically when there is manual interaction on the instrument, so the subtle colorations and timing differences in the two takes adds far more value than a cloned track ever could...

I may have found the correct method to do what I was describing. 

http://www.cakewalk.com/Documentation/default.aspx?Doc=SONAR%20X2&Lang=EN&Req=Playback.22.html

Instead of having one track to be assigned to two or more buses, I should simply enable 2 or more tracks to get input from the same source.

Thanks for all the ideas, sorry I may have caused some confusion here.

I, too, have tried them (just about) all...and Sonar's workflow and interface to me
are vastly superior to any other DAW out there..

I used Cube Bass for many years and never really felt @home...It did the job
but the workflow and interface were annoying to me..

I switched to Pro Junk...and found it the same...and their customer support was 
INSIDIOUS!!!  Everything (when I was using it) was too expensive and too - 
well...blah ...for me..

When X1 was released I took the plunge...and I'm hooked....I feel right @home,
the interface is the bomb, the workflow is AWESOME...and it just "FEELS RIGHT" to me..

If they'd get off the stick and get up on the Technology out there (their latest ad on
Facebook "claims" the have ALL the latest tech, which is not true)
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10151178852742420&set=a.377535322419.162230.18583532419&type=1&theater

IF and when they ever get VST 3.x support, Varispeed, Gapless Audio, VST Expression, and a host
of other NEW technologies that they DON'T have, then they can make the "ALL" claim...

Never-the-less....it is STILL the BEST DAW out there for me...there is nothing that I have tried
that is better as far as work flow goes....

If Digital Performer gets a Demo out of DP 8 for Windows I'll try that...but they're going to have
to really be GREAT to convince me to jump ship...

I just re-demo'd Cubase 6.5, and I have to say there have been marked improvements, but the
interface and workflow keep me away...

I just demo'd a $90 ($36 on Amazon) program called N-Track, and it was interesting.  AND it supported VST 3, while a $500 Top of the Line program doesn't.  THAT, to me, is ludicrous.

I usually download a demo of most new programs and check them out...that's how I got hooked
on X1....and, so far, nothing has come close...for me.

Despite my vocalness about Sonar's shortcomings in certain areas...it's STILL THE BOMB-DIGGITY to me...

Ah yes...  But neither does PT, Logic, DP or Reaper.  I'm impressed that N-Tracks does!   I haven't used that since moving to SONAR over 10 years ago, but even back then it already supported VST and DX.  It's actually not bad for an entry level DAW.
 

Actually DP 8 does support VST 3 from what I've read...I can't confirm that, but that's what I read...and most other
major (and quite a few minors also) DAW's do...

Yes, for a $89 ($36@Amazon) program N-Track was pretty impressive...the sound quality was QUITE impressive.
And the fact that it supported VST 3 was a total surprise to me...

by cloning a track and push one track ahead or back, then pan one left another right.

Or just use (the) Channel Tools (plugin) on the one track.