vaultwit
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Which do you prefer / use more often... CWP or CWB?
For the past year that I've owned X1 I've been saving my files in CWP format. No particular reason, I just started that way and had no reason to change. However, I've recently started to learn about the differences between the two formats.
For you, which do you prefer and which do you use more often? Which is better for organization, file management, and efficiency?
I'm planning on doing so major backing up of my files to an external hard drive (as part of my preparation for getting a new computer) and I'm wondering if using one format instead of the other will make the backing up process easier.
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Chregg
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Re:Which do you prefer / use more often... CWP or CWB?
2012/10/16 09:11:54
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ive never used the bundle files, but i can appreciate the convenience of using container files types like cwb, rather than drag a folder about full of audio about to another studio with sonar, just take the one file, as far as back up, i would still want a folder full of audio files, or just use cwp as well
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Re:Which do you prefer / use more often... CWP or CWB?
2012/10/16 09:28:33
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I've never used or trusted Bundle files.
I have read several instances where the bundle file can become corrupted with the result that the entire project is lost.
With a cwp, even if it does become corrupt, you stand a chance of rebuilding it from the wavs
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Re:Which do you prefer / use more often... CWP or CWB?
2012/10/16 09:33:24
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CWBs are not recommended because of their size they are prone to corruption. Most people now use Per Project folders which put the CWP and all audio files in a single folder that you can backup. It keeps all the files together, but not in one file where if the file gets corrupted, you lose the whole project.
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Re:Which do you prefer / use more often... CWP or CWB?
2012/10/16 09:46:05
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FWIW-I only use Per Project folders to save my projects. I have never had a problem doing so.
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Re:Which do you prefer / use more often... CWP or CWB?
2012/10/16 10:20:19
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FWIW-I only use Per Project folders to save my projects. Ditto. And if you want a similar result to a CWB, simply ZIP up the CWP file and its accompanying /audio folder.
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Re:Which do you prefer / use more often... CWP or CWB?
2012/10/16 10:24:35
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Never used the bundles either
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Re:Which do you prefer / use more often... CWP or CWB?
2012/10/16 11:08:56
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Re:Which do you prefer / use more often... CWP or CWB?
2012/10/16 11:58:59
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I have used the CWB format. I only use it when I am transferring the project from one studio to another. Throw it on a thumb drive and i am good to go. I will also use if I am backing up the project and storing it on line. I also use it when I backup recordings for people so they can have all of their original tracks.
Most of the time I save with the CWP format multiple times through out the project and I use project folders with that format. It is only when the project leaves my possession that I use CWB. I have never had any trouble with this format and I have never experienced any data corruption. Out of all the issues I have had to work through using Sonar, corruption of the CWB format is not one of them.
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Re:Which do you prefer / use more often... CWP or CWB?
2012/10/16 12:35:56
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garrigus
The Per-Project folders option is with the CWP format is the way to go. All your files are saved in a single folder (with an audio subfolder) and if you need compression, just Zip the folder.
+1 Zip files are smaller than bundles, and less prone to corruption/extraction failure.
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Re:Which do you prefer / use more often... CWP or CWB?
2012/10/16 13:02:05
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+1 on the +1
I never trusted the bundles - zip if needed, per-project audio.
I don't think I saw a single pro-bundle post thus far - if you were keeping score.
I never had a single problem using CWP - other than bad technique on my part.
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Re:Which do you prefer / use more often... CWP or CWB?
2012/10/16 13:29:53
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Used CWB files once and had big problems with opening and eventually had to redo the whole project...needless to say...NEVER AGAIN.
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Re:Which do you prefer / use more often... CWP or CWB?
2012/10/16 14:54:06
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Chregg
ive never used the bundle files, but i can appreciate the convenience of using container files types like cwb, rather than drag a folder about full of audio about to another studio with sonar, just take the one file, as far as back up, i would still want a folder full of audio files, or just use cwp as well
+1 .cwb for transporting a complex project .cwp for studio work
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Re:Which do you prefer / use more often... CWP or CWB?
2012/10/16 14:59:27
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+1 on the +1
I never trusted the bundles - zip if needed, per-project audio.
I don't think I saw a single pro-bundle post thus far - if you were keeping score.
I never had a single problem using CWP - other than bad technique on my part.
Bob Bone
I use bundles and I zip them up. Speaking of zip. I wish all musicians would upgrade to latest Winzip (15 or 16 now). From Winzip 12 on they have yet another file extension called .zipx. That bad boy compresses about 30% more than conventional .zip. Sadly a .zipx WILL NOT open in version 11 or lower. Don't waste your time trying. And no other freebie will open it (yet) either. PS Bob, I've never had a problem with .cwb. Granted I may only transport 2 or 3 a year, but still, never a problem with them.
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