SvenArne
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Buying new dynamic microphone: Telefunken M80?
Any experiences with this mic?
I'm sort of looking for a luxury SM58 for quick and easy desktop vocals. Something that can do a bit of an allround job on instruments would be a nice bonus. I already have 57s and 58s, a Sennheiser 835, an AKG D5 and an SM7B, but I would like something that makes for a bit more radio-ready sound right off the bat!
All the reviews seem to suggest that this mic might be for me!
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Re:Buying new dynamic microphone: Telefunken M80?
2012/10/19 03:43:45
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I'm intrigued by the Heil Sound PR35 as well, but it seems it would be impossible for me to try one out before I buy it, since the mic don't seem to exist outside the US...
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Re:Buying new dynamic microphone: Telefunken M80?
2012/10/19 03:46:45
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Hm... Front End Audio sells the EV RE20 for just $419 (less than half of what I would pay over here)! This changes EVERYTHING! Or does it..?
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Re:Buying new dynamic microphone: Telefunken M80?
2012/10/19 10:36:35
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The RE20 is a standard - for a reason. That and the sm7. Can't go wrong with either.
Of course, I've heard great things about Heil, too, as the new dynamic kid on the block but I haven't used one.
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Re:Buying new dynamic microphone: Telefunken M80?
2012/10/19 10:52:24
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i love the re20
but it has a certain....personality to it, that either works with your voice, or doesn't.
if you were building a mic closet, i'd say hells yeah, jump on that one...
but a DYNAMIC... specifically for singing.......?
there are some nice choices.....
with EV, 767 or 967** (really nice one, this)
Senn, 845
Audix, OM5
shure: over the 58, consider a Beta 87A
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Re:Buying new dynamic microphone: Telefunken M80?
2012/10/19 11:48:27
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Re:Buying new dynamic microphone: Telefunken M80?
2012/10/19 14:15:23
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The RE20 is a standard - for a reason. That and the sm7. Can't go wrong with either.
Yeah, I've always wanted the RE20, but I've never tried singing through one (just drums/cabs), as I only ever sing at home  . The SM7, I feel I actually went wrong with. It's okay, but I don't ever seem to find any use for it. I suppose I'm looking for a dynamic with a more "delicate" sound than the SM7B, and I suspect the M80 and PR35 (or even the RE20) might have that. batsbrew
i love the re20
but it has a certain....personality to it, that either works with your voice, or doesn't.
So I hear! How would you describe said personality?
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Re:Buying new dynamic microphone: Telefunken M80?
2012/10/19 14:18:24
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Norrie
Heil made me a custom version of the PR 22 with a built in button for my talk back.
http://heilsound.com/pro/microphones/pr-22
If you are looking for a Dynamic for other use aswell I would look no thurther thatn the Audix I5 http://www.audixusa.com/docs_12/units/i5.shtml The PR 22 is the PR35's little brother or what? Regarding the Audix, I've used that plenty and I really want something a little less "SM57ey", if you know what I mean! Is the OM series very different?
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Re:Buying new dynamic microphone: Telefunken M80?
2012/10/19 14:28:48
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sven
well, the re20 requires a pretty hot preamp signal...
but you can get real aggressive with this mic.
it is fairly flat, but full on the low end....
if you do a lot of close micing, the proximity effect has been neutralized with this mic.
i think it's better suited to 'strong' singers, and not to super dynamic or light singers.
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Re:Buying new dynamic microphone: Telefunken M80?
2012/10/19 14:28:53
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It sure is man !
I love the Audix Range I don't have any of the OM range here but they vary in style there is a good selection on there site.
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Re:Buying new dynamic microphone: Telefunken M80?
2012/10/19 19:19:54
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What are the mics they use on Imus in the Morning? I know they are a broadcast mic, duh.
Do you really think you can get much better than the SM7b, without spending a LOT of extra money. I notice on Dennis Miller's FB page, there is an SM7b pictured.
I don't have a good dynamic mic, well other than an SM57. I want an SM58 and an SM7b.. and a Shure KSM 44a. I hear really good things about that mic.
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Re:Buying new dynamic microphone: Telefunken M80?
2012/10/20 09:34:09
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batsbrew
i think it's better suited to 'strong' singers, and not to super dynamic or light singers.
This is certainly valuable info! I always had the idea that the RE20 had a sort of more 'refined' sound compared to the rather 'blunt' (IMO) SM7. So, not being a 'rawk' singer, the RE20 might not be for me after all? Still want one for instruments, though... Sven
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Re:Buying new dynamic microphone: Telefunken M80?
2012/10/20 09:39:35
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jbow
Do you really think you can get much better than the SM7b, without spending a LOT of extra money.
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AFAIK the SM7 is, along with the RE20, about as espensive as dynamic mics go. And, yes, I get the impression that there might be a dynamic mic out there better suited for my purposes! The Telefunken M80 and Heil PR35 are the ones I'm most intrigued by, since they're both claimed to have "condenser-like" sonic qualities, without the drawbacks of a condenser. Sven
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Re:Buying new dynamic microphone: Telefunken M80?
2012/10/20 10:38:02
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Hello SvenArne, I have both the SM7b and PR35. The 35 is more present than the 7b. It's got great detail for a dynamic. I use it for live vocals mainly. I'm always on the lookout for a great dynamic for live vocal and the Beyerdynamic M88 kinda has me intrigued at the moment. Not sure, but i think it might be in the same vein as the Telefunken M80. Supposed to be an excellent mic, worth a look.
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Re:Buying new dynamic microphone: Telefunken M80?
2012/10/20 11:00:48
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Hello SvenArne, I have both the SM7b and PR35. The 35 is more present than the 7b. It's got great detail for a dynamic. I use it for live vocals mainly. I'm always on the lookout for a great dynamic for live vocal and the Beyerdynamic M88 kinda has me intrigued at the moment. Not sure, but i think it might be in the same vein as the Telefunken M80. Supposed to be an excellent mic, worth a look.
Thanks! My situation is that my little room, though well treated, has nothing worthwhile to contribute to my recordings when using my condensers. So I want a dynamic that can take their place within a indie-pop vocal context when recording at home. I've never been quite satisfied with my SM7 (or my several other dynamics)! Do you think buying a PR35 would be worthwhile when I already have the SM7B? Or is it just like an SM7 with a boosted top shelf?
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Re:Buying new dynamic microphone: Telefunken M80?
2012/10/20 11:31:40
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They don't sound alike at all, imo. 35 is more crisp and clearer sounding. Wouldn't be redundant. Both have great rejection. 35 has two HPF settings on the mic, i think for -3 and -6dB but i don't know at what freq. The mic's literature doesn't say much about it. Definately prone to MASSIVE plosives like Ps and Bs, so you need to get used to the response and adjust your delivery and technique to it for live. It aint like a 58 where pretty much anything goes. But it's like having studio vocal clarity with a live rock band and no feedback. It's the hand version of the Heil PR30. The Beyerdynamic M88 is supposed to be an SM58 on steroids, but it cost a few bucks. I'd to check one out.
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Re:Buying new dynamic microphone: Telefunken M80?
2012/10/20 12:28:43
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If you decide on a PR35, check out HamCity (ham/cb radios) http://www.hamcity.com/store/pc/PR35-p2051.htm. They are an authorized dealer and have the best price i know of for the mic. They're also giving a extra 5% discount until Oct 31st and they ship to Norway. HTH.
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Re:Buying new dynamic microphone: Telefunken M80?
2012/10/20 15:02:02
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They don't sound alike at all, imo. 35 is more crisp and clearer sounding. Wouldn't be redundant. Both have great rejection. 35 has two HPF settings on the mic, i think for -3 and -6dB but i don't know at what freq. The mic's literature doesn't say much about it. Definately prone to MASSIVE plosives like Ps and Bs, so you need to get used to the response and adjust your delivery and technique to it for live. It aint like a 58 where pretty much anything goes. But it's like having studio vocal clarity with a live rock band and no feedback. It's the hand version of the Heil PR30. The Beyerdynamic M88 is supposed to be an SM58 on steroids, but it cost a few bucks. I'd to check one out.
Thanks for the info! So its much more sensitive to plosives than a 58, right? That's sort of a bummer since I was hoping for a grab-and-go microphone I can sing right into without worrying too much about distance and angle. The SM7 is great for that, since it does an excellent job of taming breaths and pops. How's the proximity compared to the SM7? You said you were contemplating the Beyer M88. Which advantages would it have over the PR-35 or SM7? Perhaps I should move it up my shortlist (€244 at DV247.com)! Thanks for the Ham City link! That's the lowest price I've seen as well! Sven
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Re:Buying new dynamic microphone: Telefunken M80?
2012/10/20 17:51:41
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Can't say much about the M88 except that i like what i've read. Seems to be a great mic. I read somewhere that someone used it for everything on a record and that the record was good. Phil Collins and some others used it a lot. ------------ The Pr35 definitely requires a singer to pay attention to not causing plosives. I generally don't eat it like one could an sm58, but i do at times jsut very carefully. If you want a mic that you can eat, then i'd say there are probably others better suited for that. It also has a hot output level, so preamp gain is not an issue like the sm7b.
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Re:Buying new dynamic microphone: Telefunken M80?
2012/10/22 11:03:28
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Interested in your impressions of the mic you choose.
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Re:Buying new dynamic microphone: Telefunken M80?
2012/10/23 04:52:44
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From what I read, the Beyer M88 seems to be a bullet proof choice! But my local retailer is gonna loan me a Telefunken M80 later today. I will post my impressions soon!
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Re:Buying new dynamic microphone: Telefunken M80?
2012/10/23 08:13:50
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wrong thread... mis post.
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