How do I remove Sonar 8 completely before X2 upgrade?

Being in limbo at the moment I decided to upgrade my computer to 64 bit. I purchased a new roland quad-capture, and while I was waiting for it I installed Sonar 8 and all of my plug in. Everything worked fine until I got the quad-capture installed last night. I had no probs getting the quad-capture to work, but as soon as I went into Sonar 8 there was a pop up window saying that Sonar 8 can't work because it's not installed properly. ???? Again, it did not do that before the quad-capture. I found that strange. I opened and closed a couple of times, every time had the same pop up. When I opened as an administrator it works. Then after doing a couple of things the same pop up appears. So I reinstalled it. Same ol same ol. One of the things I noticed is that I completely removed Sonar 8, then reinstalled it. When I reinstalled it it said there was a previous version there? How? I uninstalled it? I plan on getting X2 so I'm not too concerned about this problem. I would like a clean slate on my puter before hand, however. So the question is, how do I uninstall Sonar 8 COMPLETELY before I install X2. And if you have any idea why the quad-capture would have cause that feel free to explain. It befuddles me. Thanks

I think I'll just do a system restore guys. Nothing to see here, move along! 

Personally, I left the prior version on my system when i installed X2.  By doing that, it finds all your preferences and settings and moves them to the new install.  Time saver IMO.

As for the registry... I don't touch mine since my computer told me a long time ago that it doesn't like me and it will malfuncntion if I touch anything :-)

There is no requirement to uninstall any prior versions of Cakewalk, prior to installing X2.

I have 8.5.3 x32, as well as X1 x32 and x64, AND X2 x32 and x64.

Bob Bone

I use CCleaner to uninstall programs. Seems to do a pretty thorough job for most things. Gotta be careful with it though. On the off chance you make a mistake you can remove stuff you don't mean to and screw up your system. It's pretty hard to do that though if you pay attention to what you are clicking. You can download CCleaner free from CNET.

Erasing program files and registry entries does NOT completely get rid of 8.  There are additional folders in your application roaming and possibly local - names a bit fuzzy, also I believe there are some remnants in the root drive, and possibly in your documents folder.

Look for a Sonar 8 folder in: %ALLUSERSPROFILE%\Application Data\Cakewalk


Also for Sonar 8 in: %APPDATA%\Cakewalk


Might be in: \Users\(your user name)\AppData\Roaming\Cakewalk


Give that a shot if you are manually removing Sonar 8 - of course this would follow doing the Sonar 8 uninstall and removing registry entries as well as program folders.


I think registry keys may include something like:


HKEY_Current_User\Software\Cakewalk Music Software\SONAR 8


HKEY_Local_Machine\Software\Cakewalk Music Software\SONAR 8

Bob Bone

I stand by my earlier comments - there WILL be remnants after running the Cakewalk uninstall.  I cannot comment on anything of 8 being left over interfering with X1 or X2, however.  I only was indicating what it takes to get rid of 8.

Bob Bone

Best is to create an image after each major install:

OS and all windows updates:   image

All Hardware: Audio, video. mouse, keyboard, midi,...   Image

For me: MS OFFICE and all updates         Image

Other bits: dragon nat speaking, misc stuff     image

Non-cw audio software: kantos, korg stuff, virtual midi pipes, vsts,... image

CW products: Sonar, DP, Zta, Rapture,...   IMAGE

This way I am protected during installation

And: can move to complete installation without CW stuff real "quick."

I use win backup for OS disks, and Macrium for non OS disks.

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Irony: roland stuff does not work with CW stuff.  All the work of the past 4 years on hardware and way too much still does not work. 

Definitily a waste of time. A distraction that will haunt CW software until CW is no longer controlled/owned by roland.

spanky


But the uninstall does not remove all traces it seems (because it said there was a prior version of it even though I uninstalled it). Is it safe to simply erase entire lines in the registry? 

I thinking you don't have the right software and firmware updates installed or something. What are your version #'s

Robert, thanks for your help. I did do what you said at the beginning. Then I reinstalled Sonar 8 for shirts and giggles. It still came up with the same error. I find it very strange. So, I tried to go as far back as I could with a system restore to a time when I know it worked. Same ol same ol. 1. Simply because I got impatient. I don't have the funds to purchase X2 at the moment so I simply installed it to try and get things going. 2. Because I have an upgrade version of Windows 7, which requires an install on top of a previous OS. 3. I would have done that and that only, but I feel I did too much tinkering (manually moving dll's of my VST's and all that) and I want to ensure that I have the cleanest of slates again--so I reformatted and reinstalled Windows. :) 4. It came with the current drivers--1.5 JM24, how does one go about doing all that stuff? Also guys, what a good free download manager for when I download X2 tomorrow? :)

Because the forum software here sucks with the browser you are using. I've created countless threads about it. They are running ASPPlayground.Net version 3.5 here and they need to upgrade to 3.9. Two years Cake has done nothing about it (and seem to be ignoring the security risks issues such as cross scripting). Moving on then...

You don't unless you want to lose all of your settings in Sonar 8.