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Re:I don't get it... 2012/10/26 04:33:38 (permalink)
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I'd absolutely hate to have an entire country of legal stoners behind the wheels of cars, in the work-place, dealing with them on the phone and just dealing with people with glassy eyes and dopey conversation delivery in general. 
For the record, I was thinking it would be handled like alcohol which means you wouldn't be able to take it at work and you could still get a DUI if you got behind the wheel (not sure how they would determine the line to not cross though).


 
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Re:I don't get it... 2012/10/26 05:06:58 (permalink)
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I'd absolutely hate to have an entire country of legal stoners behind the wheels of cars, in the work-place, dealing with them on the phone and just dealing with people with glassy eyes and dopey conversation delivery in general. 
For the record, I was thinking it would be handled like alcohol which means you wouldn't be able to take it at work and you could still get a DUI if you got behind the wheel (not sure how they would determine the line to not cross though).

Yeah, but how would they even test for it? THC stays in your body 30 days. Is there a measurement that literally tells you when you're high? I could take one hit right now and probably get blasted off of dirt weed. LOL!
 
If they make it legal, would employers have to alter their drug testing policies? You may not be high today...but you were high yesterday...and this stuff hangs around...see what I mean? Too many variables lol.
 
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Re:I don't get it... 2012/10/26 06:12:53 (permalink)
In general, I think it should not be made any easier for people to mess up their lives, as so many have difficulties to keep things under control anyway. We have alcohol, cigarettes, yes, and illegal drug use of variyng degree, weed included, but somehow the recipe is in the "common understanding", things are manageable.

I'm in no way a control freak, but in these things, when people are given the freedom of choice, too many make the wrong decisions, for which we all have to pay. I can imagine a 12 year old facing the question: to be cool and street credible and take weed "because it wouldn't be legal if it was harmful" ...

When there's a limit, a red line, there always is a certain amount of "traffic" to the other side. If we move the limit, the amount of the "traffic" remains nearly the same, I believe. If children get used to being stoned starting at 14 yrs, their whole understanding of normal life gets twisted  (they take beer and cigarettes in secrecy, because they're legal and "normal", so would they take weed).
As pointed out above, the big problem with weed is you can take it anywhere, it's so hard to spot the users.

One thing about hashish and marijuana I noticed in my hippie-youth: Guys who are too lazy to ever change their underwear or go to a job-interview, because they have to concentrate on the essence of life, easily walk five miles in a snowstorm to buy a joint. 


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Re:I don't get it... 2012/10/26 11:25:01 (permalink)
I think they should regulate the crap out of it (ala cigarettes and alcohol) and make a load of cash to contribute to the benefit of society.  Yeah.  I do.

 It should be readily available to anyone who could benefit from it medically-- not this "OK, it's legal for medical use in California, but we (the state) are going to close down any dispensary we see".  That's what is actually happening in my portion of California, a place where voters legalized it for medical use.  Yeah. Not so much.
But it has to be at the Federal level, because otherwise state laws (like California's) are at odds with Federal laws and the Feds can still come in and make a mess of things for no good reason. 

I'm not saying everything should be decriminalized.  But pot should be taken off the schedule and regulated for personal use.  I don't drink.  I don't like to. Wine mostly just gives me a headache, and I just don't care for the feeling alcohol leaves, either while drinking or later.  No, I wouldn't drive or go to work or even go out in public high, but I should have the choice to relax in the privacy of my own home in the manner I see fit.  It is not a gateway.  It does not inherently lead to worse things.  It is not addictive.  And sometimes, we all need to let our hair down without being sick from it in the morning.  I think alcohol is much more evil and addictive. MUCH more.  And anyone over 21 can have as much alcohol as they want.  It's hypocritical and unjust. Thanks, DuPont and Victorian ideals that no one could live up to for long. 

I do not relish the fact that obtaining even a small amount for personal use puts money in the pocket of criminals and fuels drug cartels and other hideousness.  I am not a criminal.  Stop treating me like one and stop making me associate with them (I don't, actually... Not directly.  I'm lucky that way, but I know it comes from SOMEWHERE).

Prohibition didn't work in the 20s and it's not working now.  Enough of this idiocy.

As with anything people will abuse it.  They already do.  Don't kid yourselves. But if it was above board and legal or decriminalized there would be a lot fewer otherwise upstanding citizens getting into needless trouble and ruining their lives.  Over nothing.



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Re:I don't get it... 2012/10/26 12:49:18 (permalink)
This took a much different road than the
one I was on...FWIW.

It was sometime in the late '60s when I started hearing
about grass and the issues/problems.

That's close to 50 years I've been nagged to death about
it.
Should it have been a woman I would have left many years ago.
How much crap do people have to listen to and live with before
something is done about it?
In my life it doesn't and has never taken long for an issue to be
resolved if within my capability and many times it took someone else
to resolve the issue with their abilities....but it was resolved.
 
I think it's disgusting that this nation hasn't resolved the issue one
way or another. That was my original intent and still is.
In my eyes the only damn time we see to act with determination is
deciding who the hell we're going to shoot or bomb. Pathetic and
to those that use their grey matter...embarrassing.
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