57Gregy
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Online Hearing Tests
I've been thinking about taking some courses at a local community college to learn something I can do sitting down in a warm office and not having to lift heavy things. I'd like to do recording, but I know my ears aren't capable of producing great-sounding results. To see how bad it really is, I took a couple online hearing tests. Shucks. Photobucket has changed some things and the image isn't appearing like it should. Or maybe it's the forum software? http://s244.beta.photobucket.com/user/GregFields/media/hearingtest.jpg.html Anyway, it's bad.
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Rain
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Re:Online Hearing Tests
2012/10/27 14:42:14
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Not sure I understand the graph...
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Re:Online Hearing Tests
2012/10/27 15:02:10
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The graph charts how high the playback level of the test tone must be set at for it to seem audible. It's hard to take the results too seriously without including some sort of calibration correction for the play back system. It was fun to give it a try though. :-) http://www.phys.unsw.edu.au/jw/hearing.html
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Rain
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Re:Online Hearing Tests
2012/10/27 15:19:47
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I see - thanks Mike. I'd be curious to take a good test. My hearing seems pretty good, I still get annoyed by barely audible high frequencies and such. But who knows...
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Re:Online Hearing Tests
2012/10/27 15:35:59
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Hey, it looks like you have the aural equivalent of Auratone speakers! Should be able to get a decent mix then.. Seriously though, I'm not sure if that graph isn't normal, depending on your age. And I'm pretty sure there are some good audio engineers out there who have poor frequency response above 10K. There are probably ways to compensate.
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Re:Online Hearing Tests
2012/10/27 15:51:15
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Here's mine, listening through my AKG-240 headphones and at a comfortable level. The AC is working in the background and it's loud enough for me to hear it through the cans, so it might have interfered. Still not bad for an old geezer who used to play in rock and metal bands, I think. Though I'm perplexed by the "blind spots" - like 4K, which it seems I can't hear as well as the neighboring frequencies.
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Re:Online Hearing Tests
2012/10/27 17:20:47
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Mike's right, there's no calibration information on this, but it's not without merit. I have a significant notch loss at 12k. and that corresponds to the professional hearing test I had a couple of years ago. I think this is pretty darn good for a 49 1/2 year old... this test doesn't show it, but I also know that above 16k I pretty much roll off the chart. I can't hear 18k+ at all.
post edited by Beagle - 2012/10/27 17:22:35
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Re:Online Hearing Tests
2012/10/27 20:04:17
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I thought dogs could hear those high frequencies!
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Re:Online Hearing Tests
2012/10/27 22:23:34
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craigb I thought dogs could hear those high frequencies! not old dawgs!
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57Gregy
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Re:Online Hearing Tests
2012/10/27 23:49:40
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Compared to Rain's and Beagle's tests, I'm practically deaf. I also took a simpler one with just tones at 3 or 4 frequencies. I couldn't hear anything above 3 K. It was from a maker of hearing aids and could have been made so you think you're losing your hearing, like reducing the volume of the higher frequency tones.
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Re:Online Hearing Tests
2012/10/28 00:15:25
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I did the test again after a long day of making music, and even though I always work at fairly low volumes, I'd lost approximately 10-15 db on almost every frequency. A pretty good illustration of why we shouldn't finish a mix at the end of the day. :s
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Re:Online Hearing Tests
2012/10/28 00:32:02
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I virtually ALWAYS end my day by turning off Sonar in disgust, having concluded that it's impossible to get anything to sound good in the thing. And then in the morning, after I've showered and done my stretches, with the birds singing and the sun shining through the windows, I have my cup of tea and slide a cheerful set of headphones over a buoyant head, and it's as if the scales have fallen from my ears.
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Re:Online Hearing Tests
2012/10/28 09:04:05
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Wow All the engines and jets Ive worked around has killed mine The results said SELL Everything and get out of mixing while Im ahead
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Re:Online Hearing Tests
2012/10/28 10:38:24
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Even though it a small un professional test, it explains quite a bit for me I tried it sitting as if I were in my mixing setting. 90hz and under AND 8k and up real bad for me. Explains alot on my mixing Im struggling with and I gues why the end result is heavier on low and high end and thin in the middle.
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Re:Online Hearing Tests
2012/10/28 13:13:22
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Is Noise-Cancelling Headphones better for this then? I would think so, but do not have any unless I buy some.
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Re:Online Hearing Tests
2012/10/28 14:07:20
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At best an online test with good cans is going to show the relative frequency loss, without saying much about the actual amount of the deficit. That could still be useful for screening, and alert someone who hasn't a clue like the lady in the following anecdote: An elderly woman joined the doctor following his examination. "Are there any concerns you would like to discuss?" he asked. as was his routine. "Well yes, doctor," she said, "I seem to have a problem with farting. You know the type silent but deadly." "Yes madam," he replied, "I do know. And it appears you also have a problem with your hearing as well." It is not too difficult to find a free audiogram using calibrated equipment in a sound attenuated booth in most cities in the US. Typically they are offered by people who are trying to flog hearing aids, but in many cases they are nonethelss accurate. Even hearing aid fitters have the occasional bout of ethics.
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Re:Online Hearing Tests
2012/10/31 04:07:49
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This was Gregs photobucket pic...On the right hand side of the page there are a number of tags one can link with...I tried the IMG one... you just click on that one and it should copy..then place it on your post and there you go...
post edited by trimph1 - 2012/10/31 04:10:09
The space you have will always be exceeded in direct proportion to the amount of stuff you have...Thornton's Postulate. Bushpianos
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Re:Online Hearing Tests
2012/11/01 13:33:10
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Mine is pretty bad. How do you copy the graph to post it here? My baseline at 1khz is -57 30hz= -6 45hz= 27 60hz= -33 90hz=-42 125hz= -48 187hz= -51 250. 375, 500, and 750hz = -54 1 and 1.5khz = -57 2khz= -60 3khz= -57 4khz= -54 6khz= -39 8khz=-30 12khz= -9 16khz= I cannot hear it at all. Note my tinnitus is strongest around 6khz ad is loud today... I would post a pic of the graph if I knew how. I tried the test three times with similar results mostly because of starting with a diffeerent baseline... this one was with the lowest baseline and could have been a little higher, but was enough to hear. I used AKG K-240s. Am I deaf or am I going deaf? It does seem like I say the word, "huh" and awful lot lately... J
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Re:Online Hearing Tests
2012/11/01 14:08:51
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I don't know how loud my can's were supposed to be, but mine were VERY low. The problems I see with this test are: 1. Once you know what tone to listen for, you sort of know what's coming next. 2. If your cans are loud, you almost can't fail. Not sure what dB we should be listening at. 3. Once I was familiar with the sound of a tone, I could hear it at a lower level. So the second time I took the test, the numbers were better. But here is my first test with what I'd consider very low cans. -Danny
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Re:Online Hearing Tests
2012/11/01 14:11:40
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Julian = you have to copy the graph by using a picture program like paint, save it then upload it to a server like photobucket. then put the url of the picture location into the picture icon of the forum.
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Re:Online Hearing Tests
2012/11/01 14:25:26
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No wonder I can't mix for chit!!! Because I hear bass so predominate I'm gun shy with bass and I simply cannot hear a tambourine, hihat or ride in an entire mix but..... if I solo a whole drum kit I can hear them, go figure. Serious masking time for BaPu and Halloweenie is over. BTW, I could not even hear 12Khz and 16Khz.
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Re:Online Hearing Tests
2012/11/01 14:27:48
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And for my chart, I was using my Ultimate Ears In Ear Reference Monitors with my (turned off) ATM-50s covering them (for better background noise cancellation).
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Re:Online Hearing Tests
2012/11/01 16:07:13
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Well, it must be all of you hearing wrongly! Anyway.............what ears??
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Re:Online Hearing Tests
2012/11/01 18:10:58
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57Gregy I've been thinking about taking some courses at a local community college to learn something I can do sitting down in a warm office and not having to lift heavy things. I'd like to do recording, but I know my ears aren't capable of producing great-sounding results. To see how bad it really is, I took a couple online hearing tests. Shucks. Photobucket has changed some things and the image isn't appearing like it should. Or maybe it's the forum software? http://s244.beta.photobucket.com/user/GregFields/media/hearingtest.jpg.html Anyway, it's bad. I wouldn't trust an online hearing test. The environment is so laced with rogue frequencies and crap waves right now, you'd have to build a new isolation booth and stay in it for a day or two to get an accurate hearing test.
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