twisted6s
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midi plays back ahead of where it's intended
At the beginning of my project when i recorded any midi it would play back just the way i played it but now that the project has progressed with several synths accompanied with midi tracks, any new midi I record seem to always be playing back ahead of where i tried to record it (until I quantize). Any thoughts?
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Re:midi plays back ahead of where it's intended
2012/10/27 21:18:02
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Please zip and attach your Project folder in a private message to me and I will take a look at this and try to debug it for you. Please do not include any audio tracks.
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Re:midi plays back ahead of where it's intended
2012/10/28 02:30:05
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Have you adjusted the time offset in any of the tracks?
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Re:midi plays back ahead of where it's intended
2012/10/28 07:14:43
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Re:midi plays back ahead of where it's intended
2012/10/28 07:19:59
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Are the timing discrepancies of a consistent length or do they vary from note to note?
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Re:midi plays back ahead of where it's intended
2012/10/28 07:28:10
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Constant Bristol, but it might be that I've got two instances of Beverb on buses while I'm still tracking, I'll check that theory when I get home
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Re:midi plays back ahead of where it's intended
2012/10/28 07:41:16
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If they're consistent it suggests to me it's related to plugin delay compensation
Try recording something again but before you hit R, bypass all your Fx (hit E)
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Re:midi plays back ahead of where it's intended
2012/10/28 07:45:47
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Yeah Bristol, that's what I was thinking with the Breverb
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Re:midi plays back ahead of where it's intended
2012/10/28 08:28:50
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It does sound like one of the plugs is causing that delay. Bypass them all as suggested and then add them back one at a time to find the offender.
Remember, you can always freeze the tracks to audio and that will remove the VST or FX from the processing loop once you get the track data/notes correct.
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Re:midi plays back ahead of where it's intended
2012/10/28 08:35:05
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Mastering style plugins (eg Ozone, TRacks) on the master bus can cause various midi timing weirdness here, turning the plugs off removes the problem.
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Re:midi plays back ahead of where it's intended
2012/10/28 11:01:25
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There was a problem in cubase that many experienced in different ways. For me I think it was midi was out of time by about half a second...
The solution was to find the checkbox in the configuration menu's that said:
USE SYSTEM TIMESTAMP.
Is there anything like that in sonar?
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Re:midi plays back ahead of where it's intended
2012/10/28 13:24:39
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I've seen timing issues pop into a project when I throw in some new plugs on the run... but what you described is strange..... you are saying the midi plays AHEAD of where it's supposed to be. Everything else is delayed?
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Re:midi plays back ahead of where it's intended
2012/10/28 14:00:37
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That's the idea Herb, it's a little better when I bypass the effects. It's not a huge deal. I quantize everything anyway and then manipulate the notes in the PRV. ( I may just suck a little with my timing, I'm a terrible keyboard player)
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