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2012/10/28 20:32:31 (permalink)

HEADPHONE

Hello you guys

I know it's not really a question about Sonar but since  there are many people here that are qualify to give me some advices and that  i'm about to mix and master my songs... can you give me suggestions about which headphone sets i should buy. I don't have an' infinite budget. I'm not a pro but i which to have something decent enough so i could mix and master my songs.

Thanks to you all.
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    Re:HEADPHONE 2012/10/28 21:00:24 (permalink)
    This question gets asked a lot. Here is one of the threads for you http://forum.cakewalk.com/fb.ashx?m=2563886
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    Re:HEADPHONE 2012/10/28 21:47:18 (permalink)
    Thanks.
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    Re:HEADPHONE 2012/10/28 21:52:50 (permalink)
    Sennheiser HD-650
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    Re:HEADPHONE 2012/10/28 22:32:07 (permalink)
    for ultra flat true sound, KRK KNS-8400

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    Re:HEADPHONE 2012/10/28 22:39:43 (permalink)
    ATH-M50's are a fine pair of headphones and not too expensive either. 
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    Re:HEADPHONE 2012/10/28 22:50:40 (permalink)
    I've got a $14.00 pair of SONY MDR-G45s, they are lightweight, small, extremely durable and sound really great and balanced.  I'v had a few 2-$300.00 pairs of headphones but overall these little SONY's are my favorite!

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    Re:HEADPHONE 2012/10/28 23:12:18 (permalink)
    Plus 1 for ATH-M50's..comfy and excellent sound after the burn in.
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    Re:HEADPHONE 2012/10/29 10:21:24 (permalink)
    congalocke


    Plus 1 for ATH-M50's..comfy and excellent sound after the burn in.

    +1  I like mine.  I use Sony MDR-7506's for tracking.








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    Re:HEADPHONE 2012/10/29 10:54:34 (permalink)
    I use the old AKG K240's and in my opinion, there the best bang for your buck. I think there discontinued now, but i'm sure you can buy these for a steal right now


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    Re:HEADPHONE 2012/10/29 12:18:23 (permalink)
    I recently got the Audio-Technica ATHM50S.  They were free using reward points on my Amazon card, which was awesome.

    These sound great and are very accurate.  I never make a final decision on bass and kick level without checking the mix in these phones.

    They have good isolation so they are good for tracking (although I hand other people cheaper headsets to use when they record so they don't mess up my good ones).

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    Re:HEADPHONE 2012/10/29 12:28:10 (permalink)
    +1 for Sennheiser HD 650. 

    A good alternative would be IMHO Beyerdynamic DT880pro

    Make sure to have a good headphone amp too.. 

    Cheers! 

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    Re:HEADPHONE 2012/10/29 12:48:47 (permalink)
    konradh


    I recently got the Audio-Technica ATHM50S.  They were free using reward points on my Amazon card, which was awesome.

    These sound great and are very accurate.  I never make a final decision on bass and kick level without checking the mix in these phones.

    They have good isolation so they are good for tracking (although I hand other people cheaper headsets to use when they record so they don't mess up my good ones).

    The only thing I don't like about them is that they tend to make your ears a bit sweaty after prolonged use, but I guess that's the same with any snug fitting cans with good isolation. I'm keeping on top of it by wiping them regularly though, because my last pair of gym headphones stank to high heaven after a few weeks of sweating and not wiping them well enough. And once those pads pick up a sweat smell it is very hard to get rid of. I thought I had BO until I realized the intermittent whiffs I was getting in the gym were from my cans!
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    Re:HEADPHONE 2012/10/29 13:34:20 (permalink)
    Sennheiser HD280 Pro's here. Love em. 

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    Re:HEADPHONE 2012/10/29 14:39:04 (permalink)
    I love my ATH-M50s.  I'm on a stringent budget but always have a pair of these.

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    Re:HEADPHONE 2012/10/29 14:52:03 (permalink)
    ATH-M50
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    ATH-M50's are a fine pair of headphones and not too expensive either. 
    +1 to these. 
    I got the 50th anniversary addition (I like the color )
    And they're still on sale at Musicians Friend too. (Not sure about the cool 50th addition tho )



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    Re:HEADPHONE 2012/10/29 14:59:44 (permalink)
    I'd recommend the Beyer Dynamic 770's.

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    Re:HEADPHONE 2012/10/29 15:05:27 (permalink)
    ATH-M40fs

    Very nice. So nice in fact, this thread is making me seriously consider upgrading  to the M50s for the extended lower frequency range ( 15 - 28,000 Hz)

    :-)
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    Re:HEADPHONE 2012/10/29 15:20:56 (permalink)
    I've been using AKG K240s since the 4-track cassette days (on my 3rd pair).
    I like them a lot, but when these die, I'll probably try out the ATH-M50s.


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    Re:HEADPHONE 2012/10/29 15:23:35 (permalink)
    If you want a good cheap pair (around £30) go for the Roland RH-5, just recently got a pair myself, really nice, flat response with 10–22,000Hz frequency response.


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    Re:HEADPHONE 2012/10/29 15:25:29 (permalink)
    Grado sr80is for me.
    Once I think a mix sounds ok, then listen to them on the grados and their unforgiving nature highlights everything wrong.
    For just over 100 uk pounds, v good value for money.
    Open back though, so can't wear them on a bus.

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    Re:HEADPHONE 2012/10/29 16:06:45 (permalink)
    +1 ATH-M50s Good buy. http://digifreq.com/?ATHM50

    The KRK KNS-8400 are also nice. http://digifreq.com/?KNS-8400

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    Re:HEADPHONE 2012/10/29 18:29:14 (permalink)
    I've used a pair of fairly inexpensive Sennheiser HD25 SP's for well over a decade for both live sound work and recording and find they translate pretty well and reveal what's going on in the low bass very well. They're discontinued, but the replacement model is very similar.

    They're actually sold as "closed back DJ headphones", but (a) so what and (b) the isolation is very effective, which reduces bleed into mics for recording and reduces extraneous sounds when soloing a channel live. I have other sets, including some that were much more expensive, but it's the HD25s I keep going back to.

    To be honest though, I suspect any pair of decent quality or above closed back (for isolation) headphones will do the job - the trick is getting very familiar with them and how the sound they produce relates to both the "raw" sound and the speaker system in use. The law of diminishing returns in headphones seems to set in at around the UKP80-100/USD equivalent sort of area.

    Mixing entirely using headphones is not advisable by the way - partly because the sound from one stereo side doesn't interfere with (or be affected by) the sound from the other stereo channel they can do strange things to stereo placement and don't reveal phasing problems the way speakers do. Mastering via cans is an even more problem-prone area in my opinion.

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    Re:HEADPHONE 2012/10/29 19:12:40 (permalink)
    Ooh, almost forgot...go check out some of the Ultimate Ears stuff as well... 
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    Re:HEADPHONE 2012/10/29 19:15:05 (permalink)
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    Grado sr80is for me.
    Once I think a mix sounds ok, then listen to them on the grados and their unforgiving nature highlights everything wrong.
    For just over 100 uk pounds, v good value for money.
    Open back though, so can't wear them on a bus.

    I have a set of sr80i's and to me they are the nicest headphones for listening to music (in the sub-$200 range anyway). They are so open and well defined. I always feel like this is how the artist intended their music to be heard. However they are a little light in the bass so if I mix certain types of music with them (especially techno) I have to be careful not to overstate the low end. 
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    Re:HEADPHONE 2012/10/29 19:17:52 (permalink)
    A word of advice for anyone considering the ATH-M50's - they come in both coiled cable and straight cable versions, so you should think about which version would suit your needs best. I think the straight cable version is pretty long. I got the coiled version because I never need to wear them away from my desk and it's a lot tidier. 
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    Re:HEADPHONE 2012/10/29 19:46:21 (permalink)
    Wow, I thoroughly expected a bunch of "do not mix or master over headphones" comments bu instead people are actually recommending headphones, so here's my recommendation:

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    Re:HEADPHONE 2012/10/29 22:20:43 (permalink)
    This article at SOS is a good read: http://www.soundonsound.c...s/studioheadphones.htm I have the Beyerdynamic 880's referenced near the end and they have really helped me isolate some issues.
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    Re:HEADPHONE 2012/10/30 02:21:56 (permalink)
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    +1 for Sennheiser HD 650. 

    A good alternative would be IMHO Beyerdynamic DT880pro

    Make sure to have a good headphone amp too.. 

    Cheers! 

    +1 for each of these, though with the caveat of mastering through phones vs your studio monitors.  Check out these google results: http://www.google.com/sea...ing+through+headphones for some good pro & con articles.
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    Re:HEADPHONE 2012/10/30 19:40:57 (permalink)
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    Grado sr80is for me.
    Once I think a mix sounds ok, then listen to them on the grados and their unforgiving nature highlights everything wrong.
    For just over 100 uk pounds, v good value for money.
    Open back though, so can't wear them on a bus.

    I have a set of sr80i's and to me they are the nicest headphones for listening to music (in the sub-$200 range anyway). They are so open and well defined. I always feel like this is how the artist intended their music to be heard. However they are a little light in the bass so if I mix certain types of music with them (especially techno) I have to be careful not to overstate the low end. 

    You make a very valid point on its how it was intended. As well as the bass. However, listening to a great music production, like madonnas confessions on a dancefloor is not lacking on the bass really. Maybe slightly transparent.
     I don't use them as a replacement for monitors at all, but listening to a track prior to mix down really reveals everything incorrect with the mix. They highlight harmonic distortion much better than my ns10s for example. The bass thump is not there, but the general warmth and how it sits in a track seems to work for me, even over and above my pair of stax headphones.  I guess for a hundred dollars, for people using decent monitors, these are really great cans for ensuring the final mix works. I also check my mixes on a 20 quid old saisho ghetto blaster. 

    I am glad someone else appreciates just what a bargain these things are.

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