Life in the 1,500's

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2012/10/31 03:06:22 (permalink)

Life in the 1,500's

The next time you're washing yourself and complain that the water temperature isn't to your liking, think how it was for the unfortunate people living in the 1500s.
 
*Most people married in June because they took their yearly bath in May and still smelled pretty good in June. However, they were starting to smell so brides carried a bouquet of flowers to hide the body odor. Hence the custom of carrying a bouquet when getting married.
 
*Baths consisted of a big tub filled with hot water. The man of the house had the privilege of the nice clean water, then all the sons and other men, then the women, and finally the children - last of all the babies. By then, the water was so dirty you could actually lose someone in it; hence the saying, don't throw the baby out with the bath water."
 
*Houses had thatched roofs; thick straw, piled high, with no wood underneath. It was the only place for animals to get warm, so all the dogs, cats and other small animals (mice, rats, and bugs) lived in the roof.  When it rained it became slippery and sometimes the animals would slip and fall off the roof; hence the saying "it's raining cats and dogs."
 
*There was nothing to stop things from falling into the house. This was a real problem in the bedroom, where bugs and other droppings could really mess up your nice clean bed. A bed with big posts and a sheet over the top afforded some protection.
That's how canopy beds came into existence.
 
*The floor was dirt. Only the wealthy had something other than dirt; hence the saying, "dirt poor."
 
*The wealthy had slate floors that would get slippery in the winter when wet, so they spread thresh on the floor to help their footing. As the winter wore on, they kept adding more thresh until it would all start slipping outside when you opened the door. A piece of wood was placed in the entranceway, a thresh hold."
 
*In those days people cooked in the kitchen with a big kettle that always hung over the fire. Every day they lit the fire and added things to the pot.
 
*They ate mostly vegetables and did not get much meat. They would eat the stew for dinner, leaving leftovers in the pot to get cold overnight, then start over the next day. Sometimes the stew had food in it that had been there for quite a while; hence the rhyme, "peas porridge hot, peas porridge cold, peas porridge in the pot nine days old."
 
*Sometimes they could obtain pork, which was quite special. When visitors came over, they would hang up their bacon to show off. It was a sign of wealth that a man "could bring home the bacon." They would cut off a little to share with guests and would all sit around and "chew the fat."
 
*Those with money had plates made of pewter. Food with a high acid content caused some of the lead to leach onto the food, causing lead poisoning and death. This happened most often with tomatoes, so for the next 400 years or so, tomatoes were considered poisonous.
 
*Most people did not have pewter plates, but had trenchers, a piece of wood with the middle scooped out like a bowl. Often trenchers were made from stale bread which was so old and hard that it could be used for quite some time. Trenchers were never washed. Sometimes worms and mold got into the wood and old bread. After eating off wormy, moldy trenchers, one would get trench mouth."
 
*Bread was divided according to status. Workers got the burned bottom of the loaf, the family got the middle, and guests got the top, or "upper
crust."
 
*Lead cups were used to drink ale or whiskey. The combination would sometimes knock people out for a couple of days. Someone walking along the road would take them for dead and prepare them for burial. They were laid out on the kitchen table for a couple of days and the family would gather around and eat and drink and wait and see if they would wake up; hence the custom of holding a "wake."
 
*England is old and small, and they started running out of places to bury people. So they would dig up coffins and take the bones to a "bone house" and reuse the grave.
 
*When reopening these coffins, 1 out of 25 were found to have scratch marks on the inside, and they realized they had been burying people alive.  So they would tie a string on the wrist of the corpse, lead it through the coffin and up through the ground, and tie it to a bell.
Someone would have to sit out in the graveyard all night (the "graveyard shift") to listen for the bell; thus someone could be "saved by the bell" or was considered a "dead ringer."
 
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    Re:Life in the 1,500's 2012/10/31 03:51:29 (permalink)
    Fodder for thought.
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    Re:Life in the 1,500's 2012/10/31 04:49:50 (permalink)
    Interesting stuff.

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    Re:Life in the 1,500's 2012/10/31 08:37:16 (permalink)


    Thanks Craig!


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    Re:Life in the 1,500's 2012/10/31 08:42:21 (permalink)
    Interesting stuff.  

    Should auld acquaintance be forgot--hey, who the hell are you guys?  
     
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    Re:Life in the 1,500's 2012/10/31 09:27:20 (permalink)
    Most of the "wise old sayings" we have came from similar backgrounds of truth.

    The Whole 9 yards.... we use it to mean doing something completely: it came from WW2 where the fighter planes had machine guns that were fed with ammo belts that were 27 feet long.... or 9 yards.  Upon returning to base, the pilots would often tell the ramp crews that they used the "whole 9 yards"  meaning they were empty and needed to re-arm. The expression stuck.

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    Re:Life in the 1,500's 2012/10/31 09:33:33 (permalink)
    So, that's why there's a bell on my wrist.  The real question is, why is it stuffed with cotton?
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    Re:Life in the 1,500's 2012/10/31 09:45:11 (permalink)
    Hey!  Bubba's back!

    Did Elwood pick you up at the gate?

     
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    Ha ha, that's awesome!!

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    Re:Life in the 1,500's 2012/10/31 10:44:36 (permalink)

    Good stuff Craig, I love finding out the meanings of old words and phrases.

    Herb, I've always wondered how 'the whole nine yards' came about - I didn't realise it was such a modern saying.

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    Re:Life in the 1,500's 2012/10/31 13:27:42 (permalink)
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    *England is old and small, and they started running out of places to bury people. So they would dig up coffins and take the bones to a "bone house" and reuse the grave.
     

    Oh yes, and 600 years later, we now have to bury people standing up.





     
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    Re:Life in the 1,500's 2012/10/31 14:22:52 (permalink)
    Hi,
     
    You just need to go read some restoration theater plays ... all of those and many more are in there with all the jokes!

    As a wise Guy once stated from his holy chapala ... none of the hits, none of the time ... prevents you from becoming just another turkey in the middle of all the other turkeys! 
      
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    Was John Glasscock in The Restoration Plays too?
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    Interesting stuff!!  Very cool

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    Still waiting for Bapu to finish mixing those cover songs too...

     
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    Re:Life in the 1,500's 2013/01/17 14:57:15 (permalink)
    I don't have any particular expertise in Middle Ages lore, but I submit that the origin of "trench mouth" given above is in error. Trench mouth, like trench foot as a folk diagnosis originated in the trenches of world war I. High stress, poor diet and hygiene on the front lines may have been responsible for development of severe gingivitis in a significant proportion of the soldiers, although the term today is more commonly applied to "Vincent's Angina" a spirochete and fusiform bacterial co-infection of the oral cavity.
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    Re:Life in the 1,500's 2013/01/17 15:41:57 (permalink)
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    I don't have any particular expertise in Middle Ages lore, but I submit that the origin of "trench mouth" given above is in error. Trench mouth, like trench foot as a folk diagnosis originated in the trenches of world war I. High stress, poor diet and hygiene on the front lines may have been responsible for development of severe gingivitis in a significant proportion of the soldiers, although the term today is more commonly applied to "Vincent's Angina" a spirochete and fusiform bacterial co-infection of the oral cavity.


    Could be.  Do you also think that the swastika is a symbol of evil created by the Nazis too?  Sometimes time reinvents things...

     
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    Re:Life in the 1,500's 2013/01/17 16:10:29 (permalink)
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    *Lead cups were used to drink ale or whiskey. The combination would sometimes knock people out for a couple of days. Someone walking along the road would take them for dead and prepare them for burial. They were laid out on the kitchen table for a couple of days and the family would gather around and eat and drink and wait and see if they would wake up; hence the custom of holding a "wake."
           
    This is nonsense btw. The origins of the word 'wake' have more to do with 'watching over' the spirit of the deceased.

     
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    *When reopening these coffins, 1 out of 25 were found to have scratch marks on the inside, and they realized they had been burying people alive.  So they would tie a string on the wrist of the corpse, lead it through the coffin and up through the ground, and tie it to a bell.
    Someone would have to sit out in the graveyard all night (the "graveyard shift") to listen for the bell; thus someone could be "saved by the bell" or was considered a "dead ringer."
           
    I'm pretty sure this is rubbish too, 'saved by the bell' is an obvious boxing term.

    'Dead ringer' is a slang term for an exact match. A 'ringer' referred originally to a horse substituted for one which resembled it perfectly.
    post edited by jamesg1213 - 2013/01/17 16:17:47

     
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    *The wealthy had slate floors that would get slippery in the winter when wet, so they spread thresh on the floor to help their footing. As the winter wore on, they kept adding more thresh until it would all start slipping outside when you opened the door. A piece of wood was placed in the entranceway, a thresh hold."
     





    Spread thresh?? I hate to keep on (not really, I enjoy it), but there's no such noun as 'thresh', it's a verb.

     
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    Re:Life in the 1,500's 2013/01/17 16:30:45 (permalink)

    *Houses had thatched roofs; thick straw, piled high, with no wood underneath. It was the only place for animals to get warm, so all the dogs, cats and other small animals (mice, rats, and bugs) lived in the roof.  When it rained it became slippery and sometimes the animals would slip and fall off the roof; hence the saying "it's raining cats and dogs."
     
    How exactly would a dog get into the roof?
    More likely - Jonathan Swift wrote a poem, “City Shower” (1710), that described floods that occurred after heavy rains. The floods left dead animals in the streets, and may have led locals to describe the weather as “raining cats and dogs.” 
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    Re:Life in the 1,500's 2013/01/17 16:34:27 (permalink)

     
    *There was nothing to stop things from falling into the house. This was a real problem in the bedroom, where bugs and other droppings could really mess up your nice clean bed. A bed with big posts and a sheet over the top afforded some protection.
    That's how canopy beds came into existence.



    I think houses in the 1500's had roofs.

     
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    Re:Life in the 1,500's 2013/01/17 17:41:03 (permalink)
    The word "Blithering", as in, "You Blithering Idiot", was created in the 1865-1870 timeframe in England by combining "Blither" with the -ing suffix.  Blither was a variant of the word, "Blether", which began in the 1520's in Northern England and Scotland.

    So, apparently, they had a word for me in the 1500's, too.
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    Re:Life in the 1,500's 2013/01/18 01:00:11 (permalink)
    I used to hear these stories from my great-great-great-great-great-great-great granduncle. That's why I refused to live then!

    But really, for some it's still that way. Sadly, parts of the world have never left the dark ages.
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    Re:Life in the 1,500's 2013/01/18 01:10:46 (permalink)
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    *England is old and small, and they started running out of places to bury people. So they would dig up coffins and take the bones to a "bone house" and reuse the grave.


    Oh yes, and 600 years later, we now have to bury people standing up.




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