Pro-Channel and Fader Irritants

I've been using Sonar X1 since it's release, and just now X2. I'm making the assumption that Cakewalk (probably Roland) wants us to only use their own plugins, and not so much 3rd-party, as is evident of how the ProChannel is implemented. Personally, I don't use ProChannel anymore as a result. I was turned off by it early on in X1, and haven't seen any new desires to ever use it. Even in X2, you're so limited as to what you can bring into Pro-Channel. The ProChannel and 3rd-party plugin sections are so disconnected in Skylight, that I'd rather downgrade to X2 Studio and just divorce ProChannel altogether, using only my 3rd-party plug-ins and save a few $$ by not buying Producer. This could be fixed. ProChannel could be used to give us a larger 3rd-party plug-in section, that you could see up to, say 10 plug-in slots, including the ProChannel plug-ins, where the Engineer doesn't "feel" a difference between the two, and saving settings would save both ProChannel settings as well as 3rd-party plugin settings in ONE place! Why do they HAVE to be separate? If Cakewalk wants me to make use of their ProChannel, then please don't make me feel my investment in other expensive plug-ins second-best to yours. If they were all married into Pro-Channel, where they could be arranged as the engineer wants, then globally enabled/disabled as X2 allows, then you'd have a serious bargain chip for Producer. Otherwise, the only thing I find useful for Pro-Channel is if none of my 3rd-party plug-ins were working, or I wanted to use the "A" type channel emulation. Other than that, consider me a ProChannel non-user until then. Ok, next: Faders. Why so small? I feel like I'm stepping down to use these tiny faders. I find I always have to type in fader values if I've had strong coffee.

I don't understand at all. I love X2. I don't feel that the pro channel modules are forced on me....

I like that I can put fx chains in the pro channel.

My only complaint (which I think is an oversight) is that you have to extract the fx chain in order to double click the fx and open them full when in Pro Channel.

No, you're not missing anything Karl, the OP certainly is though.

Do these people spend anytime at all either RTFM or reading any of the Marketing blurb or watching the Webinars or any other high quality Videos  available?

All I can make out of the OP's post is that he is contradicting himself.

It seems he is not using PC yet finds it poorly implemented. He places a high value on third party plugins without understanding the quality of the CW plugins.

He asks for features that are already in the PC.

It all sounds as if the OP has not bothered to find out what the PC offers but is sure that it will prevent him from making his first gold record. 

This is a case of deliberate user error. 

Your eyes, Wookiee, do not deceive you. 

Knowledge is power. The OP has lost all power to persuade. 

I'm don't understand your frustration.  I can drag a 3rd FX into the pro-channel (FX chain), and then assign controls so that it can be controlled directly from the PC without having to open the FX.  It is a great integration of 3rd party FX into the PC?  No? 

@brconflict: If my supposition was incorrect then please accept my most sincere apologies. 

Unfortunately if you frequent this forum, i.e. the SONAR X1 and X2 Producer, Studio & Essential, then you will be well aware of those soulless beings normally found hiding under bridges, afraid of sunlight, only emerging to exact some level of physical and mental distress, that frequently appear bemoaning the faults of SONAR compared this and that other DAW product.  Then you will understand my honest mistake.

Please then enlighten us to the origins of you username, mine? I was given it when Star Wars was first released because an acquaintance of mine decided that I resembled Chewbacca with my then mane of wild red hair and full beard.  Time has however taken its time and subsequently I am more shade of white then red.  (Does that mean I can have blond moments now?)

Again my apologies if you are offended and yes you have the right to constructively criticise.
 
Edit: Furry paws not built for earth keyboards

Don't know if this relates to your wish list, but in console view, you can scroll the pro channel to see what's happening if you have a lot of plug-ins inserted.

As to the faders, there's nothing like a control surface with long-throw faders   Meanwhile, if you hold down the shift key while moving the fader, it essentially triples the mouse resolution. For example if dragging the mouse 1" moves the fader from full up to full down, with shift pressed it will take 3".

Wookiees can be silver backs, too, ya big ape! If the Rolling Stones are still called 'rockers' than you can still be a Wookiee.

Bob Bone

Thanks Bob