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2012/11/01 12:29:47 (permalink)

Vocal Parts Am Hard

I Am arranging the harmony for Here Without You this morning and my voice is already shot. I don't last very long specially if I do each part over and over. So little time and so many songs......

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Re:Vocal Parts Am Hard 2012/11/01 12:38:26 (permalink)
Take good care of you pipes.  Good luck.  

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Re:Vocal Parts Am Hard 2012/11/01 12:39:44 (permalink) ☄ Helpful
Try gargling with warm salt water.

 
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Re:Vocal Parts Am Hard 2012/11/01 12:43:44 (permalink) ☄ Helpful
You need to strengthen your voice and or learn to sing properly. 

Singing should be very similar to talking... fairly effortless, and something you should be able to do without straining too hard. If you "ruin" your voice with a few minutes or so of singing, you are definitely doing it wrong. 

Warm up properly and use proper technique and you should be able to sing a 4 hr show and still be able to talk normally after. 

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Re:Vocal Parts Am Hard 2012/11/01 12:52:10 (permalink)
Why so little time? 
Bayoubond.. in "The Time Is Not Enough".

or....Nitrain- "Take the Last Train To Clocksville"

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Re:Vocal Parts Am Hard 2012/11/01 15:25:14 (permalink)
Thanks guys! I know Herb I shouldn't be that hoarse after 2 hours of singing. I do fell like I'm straining on the upper register and our drummer normally does those parts. Good Idea Craig! I'll definitely do that. We're recording 3 tunes this week Spacey. I'll post them! Thanks again for the info!!!

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Re:Vocal Parts Am Hard 2012/11/01 16:22:33 (permalink)
Singing from the head and throat will stress the cords and burn out the voice is short order.... singing from the chest and diaphragm will not. You can sing all night and still talk afterwards. 

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Re:Vocal Parts Am Hard 2012/11/01 16:26:26 (permalink)
Go play some geeter on another collab?
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Re:Vocal Parts Am Hard 2012/11/01 17:47:31 (permalink)
What Herb said will help a lot.  There should be some pretty good warm-ups for singing posted somewhere.  Since I only do voice-overs, I tend to only use one exercise called the "King Kong" warm-up.  For that one you simply say the following starting in a fairly low register (and varying the order on subsequent repeats):  "King Kong," (then lower) "Bing Bong," (then even lower) "Ding Dong."  On the final word of each set (in the case shown, "Dong") lengthen the word and stretch it lower and lower until it becomes unrecognizable.  Think of this as if you're stretching a muscle gradually.  The next set you should find you can go a little lower, and so on.

This exercise naturally helps with the lower tones and a bit with projection but, I'm sure, that the singing ones will help with your breathing and where you're supposed to sing from (body part-wise - a singing coach can describe this area a lot better than I can!  LOL!).

 
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Re:Vocal Parts Am Hard 2012/11/01 18:21:58 (permalink)
Go play some geeter on another collab?


Great idea!!!!

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Re:Vocal Parts Am Hard 2012/11/02 09:32:58 (permalink) ☄ Helpful
There are a bunch of you tube videos that will give you some advice.... I just grabbed this one out of the many that are there:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_-FUztYMMo

You should be able to glean some advice from them. Spend some time watching...

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Re:Vocal Parts Am Hard 2012/11/02 10:49:17 (permalink)
Thank you so much Herb!

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Re:Vocal Parts Am Hard 2012/11/02 11:44:31 (permalink)
Who knew there was so much to singing?  

My daughters were in the high school chorus and I used to hear them practicing...always doing the vocal warm ups.... I thought it sounded strange but now I know what it does and how important it is to not only warm up but to use good practices and techniques to get the most from the voice we are born with. 

Back in the "live gigging" days, we simply walked on stage and started the 4 hr show without too much thought to the mechanics of it. There were a few of us who could sing...some better than others, and the rest we kept away from the mics as much as possible. 

Now that I'm into studio recording, singing has taken on a totally different aspect. Quality is more important now than it was back in the club circuit.  So I have tried to learn a few things and apply them. 

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Re:Vocal Parts Am Hard 2012/11/02 13:02:58 (permalink)
  One thing that helped me a lot......take the songs down a half step or even a whole step if the notes are straining you above your comfortable range.

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Re:Vocal Parts Am Hard 2012/11/02 14:12:21 (permalink)
I got the parts recorded and my voice is intact. Whew! Getting them right was much work but I think the guys will like what I did. Thanks for the input everyone! It's greatly appreciated!!!  
 

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Re:Vocal Parts Am Hard 2012/11/02 14:13:58 (permalink)
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I got the parts recorded and my voice is intact. Whew! Getting them right was much work but I think the guys will like what I did. Thanks for the input everyone! It's greatly appreciated!!!  


That's great Bill, but I see you've not mentioned anything about the advice I gave.
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Re:Vocal Parts Am Hard 2012/11/02 14:16:54 (permalink)
I have taken your advice! The forementioned is on the minimized track and I have been working on "the SOUND" 

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Re:Vocal Parts Am Hard 2012/11/02 14:18:09 (permalink)
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I have taken your advice! The forementioned is on the minimized track and I have been working on "the SOUND" 

That Am great to here.
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