X2 and UAD2 problems

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2012/11/02 12:59:51 (permalink)

X2 and UAD2 problems

Hi folks,
Just a quick note about UAD software versions later than 6.3.0. I just got off the phone with UAD and it turns out there is a known issue with 6.3.1 and later and X2 (possibly only the 64 bit version). UAD says there are problems with their plugs and X2, and at least in my case, those problems mean that none of the VSTs work at all. I can insert them but they don't process sound or do...well....anything at all. 

UAD does not have a timeline on a fix, but hopefully it's soon.

Dean

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    bobguitkillerleft
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    Re:X2 and UAD2 problems 2012/11/02 13:31:42 (permalink)
    Oh man,that is very lame,I mean UA promised[?],or actually said "Summer 2012" for Windows 7 capability,for the much lauded "Apollo Interface",and still No Go,as far as I'm aware.

    UAD dsp cards were actually things I read about,and liked what I was reading,only back in 2010,actually"before"I even realised properly,why Roland had stopped making the VS-2480 recorder,meaning the reputation of Universal Audio,was something that caught my attention,on the net,before I even really knew what DAW "software" was![I apologize for such "newbitity",but I only first,touched a QWERTY/used a computer ever,in late 09,at age 45].

    Considering the supposed[Iv'e never used them] Quality of the HW emulation,and fairly intense outlay,for arguably unnecessary[?][with cpu's being as potent as they are] non-native processing,If I were you,I'd be livid.

    I hope they fix this pronto,earlier even,as they are really dragging with x64.

    Good Luck,Regards
    Bob

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    stoutlyric
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    Re:X2 and UAD2 problems 2012/11/02 16:39:32 (permalink)
    Sonar X2 32 bit works with UAD 6.3.1 and above.
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    Re:X2 and UAD2 problems 2012/11/02 16:53:05 (permalink)
    Hi Stoutlyric,
    Thanks, that's what I've heard from others as well. Sadly 32 bit isn't really an option for me. I have 24GB of RAM in my computer and I'd exceed the 4GB limit of a 32-bit OS with a drum kit and a piano :)

    Hopefully UAD will get things fixed sometime soon.

    Dean

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    deswind
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    Re:X2 and UAD2 problems 2012/11/02 22:07:46 (permalink)
    I spoke to UAD tech support today.  I am using Sonar 8.5.3 64 bit and I had the same problem with the UAD latest software (but no problem with 6.2.)
    Anyway, the UAD tech said that UAD 64bit versions of the software should be available within the next two months.  That may solve it.
    Also Jbridge may solve it (instead of using bitbridge) - but I am not sure.  That was speculative.
    This was really frustrating for me.
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    Re:X2 and UAD2 problems 2012/11/02 22:24:15 (permalink)
    Very Frustrating! I have and used my UAD Quad card for a number of years without issue ,with sonar 8.0 all the way up to X1 in 64bit win 7 pro and sonar 64 bit. It seems UAD have shifted much of their focus to Apple! I find this a betrayal to the loyal PC users that have been supporting and using UAD products for years.I have almost 4 grand invested in their  plug-ins  If you look at  the statistics, contrary to popular belief, there are more PC DAW users then Mac Daw users by a significant amount. Examples of this shift in UAD's support: the Apollo  interface still only for MAC, the new PC driver issues,  thunderbolt ,which is now available on some PC Mbs. it would be a great time for some alternate DSP supported plug-in  manufacturing company to come out and bite them in the ass. I really think UAD have got on the wrong buss this time. excuse the pun. lol.


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    Re:X2 and UAD2 problems 2012/11/02 22:30:41 (permalink)
    Hey Deswind, nice to run in you again. I've actually tried it with both jbridge and bit bridge. No luck with either. And I certainly hope they're doing more than just hoping 64 bit will solve it. UA knowing its broken and not trying to fix it would be deeply disappointing.

    BTW, did you ever pick up that 251 you talked to me about a while back? Been regretting not getting that when I had the chance.

    Dean


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    deswind
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    Re:X2 and UAD2 problems 2012/11/02 22:45:42 (permalink)
    Hi Dean.   That was a sad story on those 251s!  If I remember correctly, we could have got them for $2500 each, but I could not get a second buyer and the guy later sold them for about $3300 each ):
     
    Ok - back to topic.  UAD did sort of allude that the new software for UAD did something to the 64 bit environment in running the 32 bit UAD plugs.  I got the feeling that it was not worth their time figuring it all out when they are releasing the 64 bit version so soon.  So problem an economic decision.   I think Matt from UAD is also a Utah guy - maybe he will chime in.  Best to you!  Deswind
     
    Razorwit


    Hey Deswind, nice to run in you again. I've actually tried it with both jbridge and bit bridge. No luck with either. And I certainly hope they're doing more than just hoping 64 bit will solve it. UA knowing its broken and not trying to fix it would be deeply disappointing.

    BTW, did you ever pick up that 251 you talked to me about a while back? Been regretting not getting that when I had the chance.

    Dean


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    deswind
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    Re:X2 and UAD2 problems 2012/11/03 11:28:46 (permalink)
    Has anyone on this Board figured out how to use UAD 6.3.1 or 6.3.2 with  Sonar 64bit ???
    THANKS in advance.
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    Re:X2 and UAD2 problems 2012/11/03 12:03:42 (permalink)
    Seems its broken and they are working on it. (Sonar) With UAD v6.3.1 and v6.3.2, this host may stop responding when available UAD DSP is exceeded. Workaround: Use UAD v6.3.0 unless the UAD-2 OCTO card is installed. We are working to resolve this issue.
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    Re:X2 and UAD2 problems 2012/11/03 12:51:39 (permalink)
    i am so glad i found ths..i was ready to invest in a uad card very soon as ive been following them for a while now.
    thats how i roll,if im investing big denero,i will follow something for a few months.

    gonna hold off now.

    thanks guys

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    Re:X2 and UAD2 problems 2012/11/03 12:55:56 (permalink)
    I had the same problem went from 6.3.0 to 6.3.1 and then hoped it was fixed so tried 6.3.2 Uninstalled 6.3.2 and download 6.3.0 form UAD website did a rescan in Sonar and back working 100%
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    Re:X2 and UAD2 problems 2012/11/03 14:40:06 (permalink)
    Last straw for UAD for me.  Getting "stranded" by them for all of us UAD1/UAD2 owners in terms of drivers we can't use and complete lack of x64 makes a trip to Ebay to sell my cards and plugs seem certain.

    Enough.
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    Re:X2 and UAD2 problems 2012/11/03 18:16:08 (permalink)
    I hope it's only a glitch at UAD far no problems with drivers. I have a quad card which cost a lot of money and loads of plugins so I would not be happy should UAD not get this fixed soon. They have promised all plugins would be 64 bit by the end of 2012. They have posted a workaround. Lets wait and see what they do. I find windows 7 64 bit and 32 bit strange. Normally as administrator you have full rights to any system but not so with Windows 7. If you are administrator already why would you have to run any program as administrator? You are either administrator or not as I see it. Sorry having a moan about windows and now god help us all Windows 8 and all the driver issues again.
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    Re:X2 and UAD2 problems 2012/11/03 19:22:57 (permalink)
    Can you provide a link for the workaround?  THANKS!
     
     
    fitzj


    I hope it's only a glitch at UAD far no problems with drivers. I have a quad card which cost a lot of money and loads of plugins so I would not be happy should UAD not get this fixed soon. They have promised all plugins would be 64 bit by the end of 2012. They have posted a workaround. Lets wait and see what they do. I find windows 7 64 bit and 32 bit strange. Normally as administrator you have full rights to any system but not so with Windows 7. If you are administrator already why would you have to run any program as administrator? You are either administrator or not as I see it. Sorry having a moan about windows and now god help us all Windows 8 and all the driver issues again.


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    Re:X2 and UAD2 problems 2012/11/04 20:05:56 (permalink)
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    Re:X2 and UAD2 problems 2012/11/04 20:42:49 (permalink)
    I am a little confused.  Is the workaround, to go back to a prior sofware version?  If so, that does not solve the problem of using 6.3.2 in Sonar 64 bit. THANKS for your help.
     
    fitzj


    http://www.uaudio.com/support/uad/archives.html


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    Re:X2 and UAD2 problems 2012/11/05 01:22:08 (permalink)
    Hey Deswind,
    I don't think there really is a work around. Going back to 6.3.0 makes your plugins functional but does not let you use the new plugs offered in later version.

    Dean

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    Re:X2 and UAD2 problems 2012/11/05 01:30:00 (permalink)
    That is how it looks to me.  It actually is a bigger deal than the extra plugs that were developed.  The OCTO will only work with 6.3.1 and 6.3.2 - to there goes that idea - at least until the 64 plugs are out!
    Have a good one!
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    Re:X2 and UAD2 problems 2012/11/06 02:04:16 (permalink)
    The article from UAD on 64bit architecture was INSULTING....these guys are jerks.

    (Here)

    They need to get out of the software business if this is going to be their attitude to advancing technology.


    I can understand writing an article trying to explain the difference, but they really didn't do a good job of that and just made insulting snide remarks through-out.

    And people are selling their UAD 1176's to get the Mohog version...arrogance is poison.

    I am disinclined to acquiesce supporting them anymore...

    I'm using SOnar Platinium on a 6 core Lynx Audio machine and a ton of vintage pre-amps/eq's/comps I build for fun and sometimes money, REDD.47/API/Neve I also use the UAD stuff, and also use a Macbook Logic 9 through Apogee...
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    Re:X2 and UAD2 problems 2012/11/09 18:23:12 (permalink)

    Message from UAD
    I apologize for the inconvenience.  I've checked in with out QA department - they are currently testing the issue and will be in contact with Calkwalk to work on a resolution if there is a bug found. Unfortunately, I do not have a specific remedy at the moment except for back revving to version 6.3.0.  If there is a fix or workaround prior to that I will email you to let you know - I do apologize.


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