pitch correction for vocals

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2012/11/02 17:58:35 (permalink)

pitch correction for vocals

Has anyone tried Gsnap or Antares Auto Tune for vocals?    Are they any good?   I want something easy . . but cheap.
 
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    Anderton
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    Re:pitch correction for vocals 2012/11/02 18:12:18 (permalink)
    Why not just use V-Vocal? 
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    Re:pitch correction for vocals 2012/11/02 18:14:34 (permalink)
    Have you tried V-Vocal - they don't come any cheaper than zero bucks!

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    Re:pitch correction for vocals 2012/11/02 18:46:30 (permalink)
    I use V-Vocal mostly in the graphical mode to touch up a note or two, but it is possible to get the "hard correction" effect. Unfortunately the way the documentation tells you how to obtain that sound is not correct, but this article I wrote for Sound on Sound tells you how.

    For doing transparent pitch correction, here's another article



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    Re:pitch correction for vocals 2012/11/02 18:48:56 (permalink)
      you rock Anderton
    post edited by gswitz - 2012/11/02 19:28:50
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    Re:pitch correction for vocals 2012/11/02 19:02:22 (permalink)
    Melodyne is daBomb!!!

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    Re:pitch correction for vocals 2012/11/02 19:02:45 (permalink)
    I hadn't heard of V-Vocal.  I will look into it.  

    Thanks!!

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    Re:pitch correction for vocals 2012/11/02 19:04:56 (permalink)
    greg54


    I hadn't heard of V-Vocal.  I will look into it.  

    Thanks!!

    Greg

    Greg,


    It's part of Sonar X1/X2.


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    Re:pitch correction for vocals 2012/11/02 19:09:00 (permalink)
    Read Craig's articles before you start messing around with it

    When you do start, save your project regularly, preferably with some sort of file-versioning happening so you can easily revert to a clean slate.

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    Re:pitch correction for vocals 2012/11/02 22:22:21 (permalink)
    I like Melodyne much better than V-Vocal for both usability and results.  That said, I have used V-Vocal on a couple of records and it was fine.

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    Re:pitch correction for vocals 2012/11/02 23:20:36 (permalink)
    V-Vocal works great for pitch corrections and it can even give that "Cher" effect if you want it. If you're correcting a few notes here and there, its totally transparent. If you have to correct a whole track, get a new vocalist. :) I have a track published on SoundCloud and I use V-vocal on a few notes. 
    post edited by daveny5 - 2012/11/02 23:47:49

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    Re:pitch correction for vocals 2012/11/03 01:19:42 (permalink)
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    If you have to correct a whole track, get a new vocalist. :)  
     
    I think I may have worked with that vocalist too . I feel your pain.
     
    One other tip: I've used V-Vocal a lot with bass, they seem to get along quite well. I use it mostly to add slides and expressiveness to synth bass parts, but remember that it only works with monophonic lines.
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    Re:pitch correction for vocals 2012/11/03 04:04:59 (permalink)
    Melodyne is WONDERFUL. It makes V-Vocal look like a model T. The high end melodyne ($400) can do some really slick stuff with non-vocal stuff as well - how about recording an acoustic guitar, then reaching in via Melodyne and moving a single note - even if several strings were played at the same time. I don't know how it can do that but Lordy it works. It's also possible to try different melodies in Melodyne. You can move notes a half dozen steps easily. V-Vocal is a 2 half steps at most, usually 1 half step. I've taken a lead guitar part and changed it on the fly with melodyne. People who think melodyne is vocal correction software only are just unaware of what it can really do. (Again, the high end version only...)
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    Re:pitch correction for vocals 2012/11/03 09:01:11 (permalink)
    flameout


    Melodyne is WONDERFUL. It makes V-Vocal look like a model T. The high end melodyne ($400) can do some really slick stuff with non-vocal stuff as well - how about recording an acoustic guitar, then reaching in via Melodyne and moving a single note - even if several strings were played at the same time. I don't know how it can do that but Lordy it works. It's also possible to try different melodies in Melodyne. You can move notes a half dozen steps easily. V-Vocal is a 2 half steps at most, usually 1 half step. I've taken a lead guitar part and changed it on the fly with melodyne. People who think melodyne is vocal correction software only are just unaware of what it can really do. (Again, the high end version only...)

    it does work extremely well.   It is crystal (no artifacts) when used properly.  Editor rocks

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    Re:pitch correction for vocals 2012/11/03 10:59:16 (permalink)
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    greg54


    I hadn't heard of V-Vocal.  I will look into it.  

    Thanks!!

    Greg

    Greg,


    It's part of Sonar X1/X2.
    Yeah, I didn't know that until this thread.   :)
    It seems pretty easy.
     
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    Re:pitch correction for vocals 2012/11/03 11:01:39 (permalink)
    Thanks for all your suggestions, everyone.   I just need to correct a few notes here and there.   So V-Vocal seems like it will do the trick.
    I appreciate all the help!

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    Re:pitch correction for vocals 2012/11/03 11:37:01 (permalink)
    I looked at Melodyne, but V-Vocal is . . free.     I watched this video tutorial on V-Vocal, and it seems easy enough.   Since I don't have a lot of correction to do, thiis is probably the best way to go for me.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fiXvFSup8as&feature=related

    Thanks again!
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    Re:pitch correction for vocals 2012/11/03 14:50:50 (permalink)
    since you already have it yeah.... use it. 

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    Re:pitch correction for vocals 2012/11/03 20:21:03 (permalink)
    Read this before attempting to use V-Vocal

    http://forum.cakewalk.com/tm.aspx?high=&m=2276613&mpage=1

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    Re:pitch correction for vocals 2012/11/04 00:33:48 (permalink)
    Good to know.   
    Thanks!
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    Re:pitch correction for vocals 2012/11/04 01:47:59 (permalink)
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    Read this before attempting to use V-Vocal

    http://forum.cakewalk.com/tm.aspx?high=&m=2276613&mpage=1


    Wow, I approve that message! Those tips are pure gold, and right on target.
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    Re:pitch correction for vocals 2012/11/04 09:57:42 (permalink)
    Many of these tips apply to Melodyne and other pitch correction programs, as well.
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    Read this before attempting to use V-Vocal

    http://forum.cakewalk.com/tm.aspx?high=&m=2276613&mpage=1


    Wow, I approve that message! Those tips are pure gold, and right on target.



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