lawnranger
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Pedal board sequence for guitar
Am looking to add a pedal to my guitar set up. Playing off a tube amp (Blackstar) Existing pedals: Tone bug, T-Rex Booster " " " " Reverb Blackstar channel button (switches between clean and distort) Want to add a compressor pedal. Any suggestions on what sequence to place the pedals in? Note the Blackstar amp has an effects loop, which I use. Thanks, Wayne
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Re:Pedal board sequence for guitar
2012/11/03 20:00:24
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Because your using a booster pedal, I think the compressor would go first, otherwise when you kick in the booster, it would slam the input of the compressor into major squishing mode. But sometimes this is the sound you want, so the general rule of pedal sequencing is try them all. Some people used to even have switching devices to change the routing just for that reason. Note , the efx loop on most amps is no different than putting the pedals before the input.
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Re:Pedal board sequence for guitar
2012/11/04 16:01:08
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Compressor goes first......and Blackstar amps are amazing....I have a Club 40....great distortion and the clean channel is pretty innovative
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lawnranger
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Re:Pedal board sequence for guitar
2012/11/04 18:28:53
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So, went online and ordered the Blackstar Compressor and........ ordered a Echo pedal. If I get this right I should have guitar then compressor then booster, reverb finally echo. Sound right? Also, is there any difference in using the effects loop versus straight into the amp?
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Re:Pedal board sequence for guitar
2012/11/04 19:21:43
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Convention says autowah and similar goes first (something intended to react to pick dynamics won't work well with a compressed signal for obvious reasons). Compressor generally next. Though if the guitar signal is very clean (in terms of no buzz) and the compressor doesn't add much noise of its own sometimes they work well after distortion/overdrive (assuming the distortion/overdrive doesn't add much noise itself, of course). Wah after, before or in between compression and distortion depending on preference (it gives different noisefloors and different sounds). Chorus, flanger, phasers, tremolo etc. after that (though again, sometimes running these into distortion can work well). Then delay/echo, reverb last. Unless you're Leo Fender designing an amp, when you put the tremolo* (or "vibrato" as he called it) after the reverb, which gives a much more marked tremolo effect as the reverb doesn't blur the volume dips. In the real world though, it's a matter of experimenting until you hit on a sequence that works well for you. As for effects loops, yes there's a difference. If your distortion is coming from the amp's preamp stage then the gear in the loop will affect that sound. If the effects are pre-distortion (i.e. in front of a distorting amp) the distortion works on and reacts with what the effects have already done. Both setups are perfectly valid depending on what you want to achieve. FX loops generally work at line level, not the lower instrument level that the guitar produces, by the way. Reverb built into an amp is generally in between the pre and power amp stages, so is in effect already in a "loop". *tremolo is volume fluctuation. Vibrato is pitch fluctuation. Fender got this backwards for some reason then stuck with the error. So a Strat's "tremolo" bridge is really a vibrato bridge, and Fender amp's "vibrato" is actually tremolo).
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Re:Pedal board sequence for guitar
2012/11/04 22:17:23
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lawnranger, You could run your guitar into the compressor, then boosters/overdrives/distortion straight into the front end of the amp. Place your time based effects like flange, chorus, delays and verb' in your effects loop. Conventionally, overdrives and distortions are not used in the loop and bring better results straight in to the amp input. Just my $.02 Have fun searching for your zen tone.
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Re:Pedal board sequence for guitar
2012/11/12 17:52:35
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rule of thumb #1 - there are no rules - and there is probably no order I haven't tried<G>! rule of thumb #2 - if a pedal uses dynamics you want it in front anything that'll change the dynamics - unless of course you want to change the dynamics before you hit the pedal that responds to dynamics. (see rule #1)
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Re:Pedal board sequence for guitar
2012/11/12 19:20:07
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You'll have to look in the manual for the amp or find a block diagram, As I said, a lot of Amps I have used the efx loop was right after the input jack. To be different it would have to be after the pre amp.
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lawnranger
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Re:Pedal board sequence for guitar
2012/11/14 09:18:11
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Thanks everyone, having fun playing with all the pedals, having a blast.
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