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2012/11/09 14:23:49 (permalink)

Totally stumped?!

Hi guys,
 
I got the weirdest problem all of a sudden and for the life of me can't figure this one out.
 
I have a project running in X1. It plays great, everything is perfect...no crashes, no weird anomalies.
 
The weird part is, when I try to export the audio, my piano and my strings will not export. They are physically playing in the projec and sent to the master bus. When I export the project, everything plays in the file except my piano and my strings.
 
Ever seen anything like this? I've checked everything I can think of and this just will not export with those two instruments in the song. Yet if I export them individually, they export. They just will not export in this project.
 
I tried to freeze them and then bounced...no dice. They play in the project but just won't export. I'm using the Cakewalk SI strings and 2 versions of Kontakt. The one with the piano won't export in the song, yet the one I'm using for some special effects exports.
 
What am I missing? I gotta export this mix for a client and should have been done an hour ago. Any suggestions? Thanks in advance.
 
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    Re:Totally stumped?! 2012/11/09 15:22:01 (permalink)
    Quick update...this is so weird! If I export the project anywhere but from the very beginning, the strings and piano are in the export. They just won't trigger from the beggining while exporting...yet they play in the project from start to finish. I'm out of ideas.

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    Re:Totally stumped?! 2012/11/09 15:23:40 (permalink)
    Hmm.

    Not sure what to say Danny - I know you won't be guilty of the usual stuff, like routing/export options/selection range etc.

    The only thing I can suggest is a workaround for your client.

    If they export individually ok, and the rest of the mix also exports ok, why not just combine the 2 in another project?

    Are they set up as split Midi/Audio or Simple Instrument Tracks?
    Whichever it is, set it to the other option & try again.

    What happens if you do an audible bounce?


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    Re:Totally stumped?! 2012/11/09 17:19:55 (permalink)
    Try doing a slip-edit on the front of those MIDI tracks, moving the "start" forward in time up to just before the first notes in the tracks.


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    Re:Totally stumped?! 2012/11/09 19:06:19 (permalink)
    Thanks Jonesey and bit. Not sure what the deal with this is. I never in my life saw anything like it. Yeah all the usual stuff is accounted for Jonesey. I went over everything as carefully as possible there. I'm using instrument tracks.

    Bit: That was already done as I always keep my projects clean and slip edited to get rid of space. I don't know how the thing works in the project and doesn't export. I even tried that "what you hear" preset as well as audible bounce and it still didn't work. However, if I export right in the middle of the project, they show up every time. It's so weird! Freeze didn't work, a new AUD.ini didn't work but bounce to tracks did. There's something goofy on the outputs of those synths somewhere but for the life of me I can't find it. I figured if freeze didn't work, bounce to tracks wouldn't...but it did.

    I even tried to recreate the synth and tried "replace" with the same synth. Still no dice. Something may have gotten corrupt somewhere...but this is definitely something I never encountered before. Ok wait...I did sort of come across something similar....you guys may be able to help me remember. LOL!

    Years ago I had a client send me a project with a drum track that would not play unless you turned the enable/disable button off and on while project was playing. This would get you one pass through and then you'd have to do it again to hear the drums.

    I sent the project to Willy Jones and he said he had to mess with midi filters to remedy the problem. I don't remember exactly what he did because it was so long ago. He also fixed it for me and sent me the cwp. of the project so I never actually fixed it myself. But this was a similar problem. Could any of this have to do with midi filter assignments? If so, which ones?

    Thanks guys, really appreciate this. At least I got the thing working...but I would still rather not have to bounce those two tracks..

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    Re:Totally stumped?! 2012/11/09 19:10:13 (permalink)
    I'm not clear if your Piano and strings are audio tracks or midi/vsti tracks.
    Not that I have a solution or anything but..........


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    Actually, I just thought of something.
    Maybe the problem is because you are posting in the 8.5 forum.
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    Re:Totally stumped?! 2012/11/09 19:22:01 (permalink)
    timidi


    I'm not clear if your Piano and strings are audio tracks or midi/vsti tracks.
    Not that I have a solution or anything but..........


    edit.
    Actually, I just thought of something.
    Maybe the problem is because you are posting in the 8.5 forum.

    How the....what the....oh man, I didn't even realize I posted here! LOL! Thanks Tim! I guess I should post this over the other place. The tracks are midi VSTi instrument tracks. You know, the all in one that gives you tabs for midi and audio at the bottm left of inspector. Well at least you fixed one problem....we found I'm in the wrong forum! I don't know how that happened either. LOL!
     
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    Re:Totally stumped?! 2012/11/09 19:26:39 (permalink)
    Bounce them down to audio would be my suggestion.

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    Re:Totally stumped?! 2012/11/09 20:28:02 (permalink)
    Did you look at the Event List to see if there is a control code at the beginning of the track turning the volume down? 

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    Re:Totally stumped?! 2012/11/10 07:55:09 (permalink)
    Thanks Dave, yeah I checked that....nothing out of the ordinary.

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    Re:Totally stumped?! 2012/11/10 09:13:22 (permalink)
    Hey Danny, don't look now but you solved it in the X1/X2 forums!


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    Re:Totally stumped?! 2012/11/10 12:58:49 (permalink)
    LOL gustabo!!!!!!!!!!! I still don't know how I ended up here posting in this forum. I was using another pc but coulda sworn I was in the right place. Hahaha! Thanks for your help and the Franks plug advice. :)

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    Re:Totally stumped?! 2012/11/10 13:49:52 (permalink)
    Man am I glad I read this thread first b/c I didn't realize I was in the wrong forum too...don't feel alone Danny : )

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