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2012/11/10 17:28:25 (permalink)

exporting tracks

hello everyone, i want to send files via email to someone so they can download it and work on it. can someone please give me step by step how to do this.
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    Beepster
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    Re:exporting tracks 2012/11/10 17:47:22 (permalink)
    There are a lot of variables. Please describe exactly what you are tying to do and I'll try to help with my limited knowledge but it will also help those more experienced give you a definitive answer. For now set yourself up a file sharing service account such as dropbox. Most email providers will not allow you to upload files that large.
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    Re:exporting tracks 2012/11/10 17:52:27 (permalink)
    General stuff...

    Are they using Sonar as well? If so do they have the same version as you?

    You will want to make sure the people receiving the files import them into a project that use the same bit depth, samplerate and meter (bpm's).

    Their hardware will obviously have to be capable of handling higher samplerates and bit depths if you are going above 44.1k/16 bit (some interface don't handle higher settings and if their computer sucks it may not be able to process the data).

    If they are using a different DAW software you should read up on OMF exports in the Sonar manual and in general.

    ... etc.
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    Re:exporting tracks 2012/11/10 17:56:01 (permalink)
    If they are merely laying down a take and not mixing anything you can just send them a stereo file or if you want to allow them to adjust certain elements you can export individual busses to create "stems" and then they can adjust some levels.

    Be sure to "compress" (not audio FX compression... data compression like a zip file) so it doesn't take as long to upload/download the files.

    ... etc...
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    Re:exporting tracks 2012/11/10 17:57:39 (permalink)
    If you are using specific audio FX or soft synths that the receiver do not own bounce the MIDI and FX to audio because otherwise they will not have access to them.
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    Re:exporting tracks 2012/11/10 17:58:39 (permalink)
    and that's all I can think of for now... Cheers.
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    Re:exporting tracks 2012/11/10 18:28:16 (permalink)
    You still there?

    If you are going to send a whole mix and they have Sonar read up on .CWB (batch) files. That will send them a duplicate of everything but it will be HUGE. 

    Seriously some details would help.
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    Re:exporting tracks 2012/11/10 18:55:28 (permalink)
     Must be on a coffee break


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    Re:exporting tracks 2012/11/10 18:59:27 (permalink)


    MIKE

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    Re:exporting tracks 2012/11/10 19:02:37 (permalink)
    @Mike... Indeed. It happens though. I've actually spent some time looking into this subject because I need to do this type of thing in the very near future so I might actually be able to give a step by step (oooh baby... sorry) for once. The forum has helped me so much so now that I'm taking a break I'd like to pay it forward as they say. ;-)
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    Re:exporting tracks 2012/11/11 12:02:48 (permalink)
    i'll try and be more specific, when i did this before i was running SONAR 6 now i have X-2 after much trial and error i managed to get a project sent to the producer where he could download it into pro tools and work on it because a data file is a data file the DAW dosn't care where it came from. the first problem was none of the tracks would line up, i was able to fix that, the problem is i don't remember how i did it. i think what i did was first hi-light a track then use the BOUNCE TO TRACKS function so all the tracks would start at the same time then i would hit EXPORT. that's all i can remember, like i said it was hours of trial and error. now with X-2 there are so many options i'm real confused as to which one to use. i have Garrigus' book but it's a bit vague on this. once i figured out how to get everything ready to send i would send everything via PANDO or YOU SEND IT. does any of this make sense? i'm sure there's a simple way to do this.
    again, thank you all for your help



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    Re:exporting tracks 2012/11/11 12:31:58 (permalink)
    So you want to send ALL the tracks so he can tweak them on his PT machine? I'm pretty sure you want to save the file as OMF. I'm not sure if that is a "Save As" or an "Export" but there should be a detailed description in the X2 manual. Sorry I can't help more but I haven't dug into that particular method yet.
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    Re:exporting tracks 2012/11/11 12:37:16 (permalink)
    From the X2 manual (sorry for the formatting but this is from page 936 so you can read it there):


    Exporting OMF files
    OMF (Open Media Format) files are designed for cross-platform compatibility. For more information
    about the OMF format, see “Importing OMF projects” on page 304.
    If you plan to export a SONAR project to another program that can read OMF files, it pays to
    consider three things before you start your SONAR project:
    • Sample rate and audio bit depth of the target system
    • Number of tracks the target system can handle
    • SONAR and most other audio programs do not include video in the OMF file
    To export a project as an OMF file
    1. Select File > Export > OMF.
    The Export OMF dialog box appears.
    2. Enter a File Name (maximum 64 characters—SONAR limits name length for ISO CDR
    compatibility), and in the Save As Type field, choose OMF Version 1 or 2. Most applications
    expect Version 2, but check with your engineer.
    3. Audio Packaging: usually you should choose Embed Audio Within OMF, which includes the
    audio data in the OMF file. But you should check with your engineer.
    4. Split Stereo Tracks Into Dual Mono. See what your engineer wants. If exporting a 24-bit
    project to a Pro Tools system, enable Split Stereo Tracks Into Dual Mono, as some Pro Tools
    systems do not support 24-bit interleaved stereo files.
    5. Include Archived Tracks. You can choose to include archived tracks in your exported file.
    6. Mix Each Groove Clip As A Separate Clip. If you have several Groove Clips in a track
    SONAR exports them as one clip unless you check this option. If you check this option, SONAR
    936 Mixing
    Preparing audio for distribution
    has to do a separate export operation for each Groove Clip in the track, which is very timeconsuming.
    If you only have one Groove Clip in a track, and you have rolled out numerous
    repetitions of the clip, SONAR exports a single clip that is the length of the original clip and all the
    repetitions, which is not a time-consuming operation.
    7. Audio Format. Ask your engineer what format the studio uses, Windows (RIFF Wave) or Mac
    (AIFC).
    8. Click the Save button.
    9. SONAR exports the project as an OMF file. In the Save as Type field, select the OMF version
    you want to save the project as. Version 1 is compatible with older applications. See your target
    application’s documentation for information on which version it supports.
    Dithering
    Dithering. Whenever an audio signal is converted from a higher-bit resolution to a lower
    resolution, it is necessary to apply dither to avoid introducing undesirable quantization noise or
    harmonic distortion into the signal. The purpose of dither is to reduce the resulting distortion by
    adding low-level random noise or “dither” to the audio signal. Different mathematical calculations are
    used to generate dither, each method has advantages and disadvantages depending on the
    particular operation. SONAR features the Pow-r dithering process, short for Psycho-acoustically
    Optimized Wordlength Reduction, which can produce lower-bit files that sound indistinguishable
    from higher-bit source files. When this option is turned on, SONAR uses dithering when you export a
    higher-bit file at a lower resolution, or lower the bit depth of a project’s audio files by using the
    Utilities > Change Audio Format command, or when you “render” audio (bounce, freeze, or apply
    effects).
    SONAR Producer offers five kinds of dithering:
    • Rectangular. Essentially white noise, no noise shaping. Advantages: least CPU-intensive,
    lowest signal-to-noise ratio, preferable to shaped dither when successive dithering can occur
    (e.g. bouncing, freezing). Disadvantages: suffers from intermodulation distortion, higher
    perceived loudness than Pow-r dither.
    Note: OMF files save the following:
    • Tracks
    • Clip positions
    • Slip edits
    • Fades and crossfades (as destructive edits)
    • The following information is discarded:
    • Volume
    • Pan
    • Automation
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    Re:exporting tracks 2012/11/11 12:47:45 (permalink)
    Press Ctrl+Shift+A
    1. Select File--->Export--->audio
    2. Under Source Category select Tracks
    3. Under that select the tracks you want to export
    4. Select all the options you want, file format, channel format, bit depth, whether FX are included etc etc.
    5. Type a name in the "File name" box (Sonar will add the track names automatically)
    6. Click okay.

    You'll end up with all the tracks you selected in step 4 padded out to the same length ready for import into another program (in the file format you specify)

    HTH
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