sharke
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First core is peaking...other 5 at less than half load
Is there anything I can do about this, short of upgrading to Windows 8 (I hear the load is spread more evenly)? I'm getting to the point in this project where the first core is hitting the red sometimes, causing clicks and stutters. I know I can freeze some tracks, but I'm at a stage in the arrangement where I'd rather not for the time being.
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Re:First core is peaking...other 5 at less than half load
2012/11/11 01:43:21
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I'm interested in knowing the answer/solution to your question as well, Sharke. I often see this happening to me, and then I wind up having to freeze tracks in order to avoid that first core from peaking out... the others barely break a sweat most of the time. Seems to me a big waste of resources to start clicking and stuttering when we have power to spare in the other cores.
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Re:First core is peaking...other 5 at less than half load
2012/11/11 01:46:47
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How about toggling E to turn off all effects and see if it helps ?
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Re:First core is peaking...other 5 at less than half load
2012/11/11 01:52:22
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I've got this note copied somewhere in the forum for multi core processor setting : Thread balancing for multi-core processore To edit inside Sonar->Preference->Configuration file To edit ini file direct : \program files\cakewalk\--sonar--version--\cakewalk user data\--sonar--version\ File : AUD.INI -> ThreadSchedulingModel=<0,1,2> 0 = Same as previous versions of SONAR. 1 = (default) Better thread balance. Model is more efficient and can provide cycles for other tasks. 2 = Additional worker thread is created. This may result in improvement with Quad processor systems or higher. Not recommended for Dual processor systems.
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Re:First core is peaking...other 5 at less than half load
2012/11/11 02:01:00
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Setting ThreadSchedulingModel to "2" seems to have improved matters slightly, but not greatly. It definitely helped. What seemed to help even more, was clearing out some unused synths from the browser. I'd totally forgotten they were there. Not sure how much processing power/memory they take up when sitting idle, but I'm not peaking in the red now thankfully
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Re:First core is peaking...other 5 at less than half load
2012/11/11 02:11:18
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some programs see better results if you open task manager and setting priority to high or realtime.
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Re:First core is peaking...other 5 at less than half load
2012/11/11 02:12:47
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Setting ThreadSchedulingModel to "2" seems to have improved matters slightly, but not greatly. It definitely helped. What seemed to help even more, was clearing out some unused synths from the browser. I'd totally forgotten they were there. Not sure how much processing power/memory they take up when sitting idle, but I'm not peaking in the red now thankfully
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Re:First core is peaking...other 5 at less than half load
2012/11/11 02:34:20
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i remember seeing in another thread i think about aufiosnap and rendering esp bounce to clip that the izotope audio algorithms that cake licenses only use one core. which is why mixing down some audio takes a while.
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Re:First core is peaking...other 5 at less than half load
2012/11/11 02:49:45
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Maybe it's also partly because the OS is using that first core as well?
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Re:First core is peaking...other 5 at less than half load
2012/11/11 03:17:48
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I have a problem since changing that thread parameter to 2. Ever since then, whenever I load up the project I was working on when I changed it, Sonar tells me that one of my synths is connected to a silent output and therefore won't be heard. It's not though, it's output to the master bus and sounds as normal. I'm a bit worried (and irritated) by this error message every time I load the project though.
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Re:First core is peaking...other 5 at less than half load
2012/11/11 03:30:46
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I have my setting of this parameter at 2 as well and so far did not encounter this issue. Does it occur in other projects ? Could it be due to one of the synth that was removed ?
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Re:First core is peaking...other 5 at less than half load
2012/11/11 03:36:13
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You live in NYC and you are worried and irritated by a program warning message? Maybe a break from SONAR might be the ticket. If it gets to be too much set the initialization file variable WarnSilentBuses to 0.
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Re:First core is peaking...other 5 at less than half load
2012/11/11 03:39:29
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tomixornot I have my setting of this parameter at 2 as well and so far did not encounter this issue. Does it occur in other projects ? Could it be due to one of the synth that was removed ? No, just occurs in the project that I had open when I changed the parameter. The warning popped up right after I imported the configuration back into Sonar after changing it, which was before I removed the superfluous synths.
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Re:First core is peaking...other 5 at less than half load
2012/11/11 03:42:28
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scook You live in NYC and you are worried and irritated by a program warning message? Maybe a break from SONAR might be the ticket. If it gets to be too much set the initialization file variable WarnSilentBuses to 0. I may live in NYC, but I am a gentle baa-lamb imbued with the sweetness of hearts and flowers
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Re:First core is peaking...other 5 at less than half load
2012/11/11 03:54:21
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This may or may not help - if you have not change a lot of the configuration setting, there is an option to reset it to default. I just did the reset and does no harm. I've change the ThreadSchedulingModel back to 2 now.
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Re:First core is peaking...other 5 at less than half load
2012/11/11 05:01:48
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Try increasing the soundcard buffer size? More latency but less load. AFAIK the 1st core always loads more, at least it does on my AMD phenom II X6 1055T so if there is a solution then I'd love to hear it. Threadschedulingmodel setting make little to no difference. I am using win 8 fresh install and no change in load from win 7. Bibs
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Re:First core is peaking...other 5 at less than half load
2012/11/11 07:46:36
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You can also try to increase the "PlugInBuffer" size in the configuration file.. If you are using a lot of plugins under Win 7 it will definitely tax the first core... Cheers!
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Re:First core is peaking...other 5 at less than half load
2012/11/11 07:56:00
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tomixornot I have my setting of this parameter at 2 as well and so far did not encounter this issue. Does it occur in other projects ? Could it be due to one of the synth that was removed ? + 1 Edit - I should have read your reply better before posting. If you are using a lot of 32 bit plugins, I believe you can get Bitbridge to assign specific "servers" to instances of particular plugins which consume more CPU cycles. I don't know what the correlation between Bitbridge servers and CPU core activity is though - but maybe worth looking at. Sorry for the misread in your reply, Sharke.
post edited by Brando - 2012/11/11 10:29:37
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