Upgrading X1 to X2 - worth of 99 euros?

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2012/11/11 12:25:59 (permalink)

Upgrading X1 to X2 - worth of 99 euros?

Hi everyone! What do you guys think: should I pay 99 euros and upgrade my X1 Producer Expanded (with all the ProChannel modules) to X2? I use X1 with Reason 6.5 (+ Refills: Soul School, Disco School, Abbey Road Keyboards, Drum Refill, Ozone Maximizer), Amplitube 3.9, ValhallaRoom and I'm quite happy with that little combination of different softwares and plugins. So is X2 upgrade necessary? I don't want to pay extra for using Overloud TH2 or Breverb 'cos I already have a very good guitar amp software and reverb plugin.
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    Re:Upgrading X1 to X2 - worth of 99 euros? 2012/11/11 12:28:40 (permalink)
    Yes it is. You will love X2.

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    Re:Upgrading X1 to X2 - worth of 99 euros? 2012/11/11 12:30:13 (permalink)
    YES. Will be even better when the service packs come out for X2.

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    Re:Upgrading X1 to X2 - worth of 99 euros? 2012/11/11 12:56:43 (permalink)
    Well personally I did upgrade to X2 but found it a little unstable, so have gone back to X1 for the time being - shall look at X2 again after the first patch.
    I did like some of the new features though - after the first patch has sorted some of the bugs (which are all pretty minor I think), it will be well worth the time and effort to upgrade and get used to the new ways of doing things.
    The main reason I did not persevere at the moment is that we are in the middle of a large project, so didn't want sorting software issues in the way whilst we recorded.
    I am sure upgrading will be worth it in the long run.

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    Re:Upgrading X1 to X2 - worth of 99 euros? 2012/11/11 12:58:47 (permalink)
    I went from my beloved 8.5 to X1 Studio for 3 months and then to X2P, so I have new toys that I'm terribly impressed with that may skew my judgement but...

    X2 is about convenience, I've talked to several people (all longtime CW guys) about it and  we've all basically said "why haven't we requested this & this & this before?".

    I realize many enhancements have been requested here and elsewhere, but X2 really is intuitive - you can just bumble your way through it and it just feels better to me.

    $99 means different things to different people and I do know some that are happily still using 8.5, but just watch the vids and see if it's worth it to you.

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    Re:Upgrading X1 to X2 - worth of 99 euros? 2012/11/11 13:35:46 (permalink)
    The small workflow changes that make a huge difference are worth it alone IMHO. Auto zoom, smart grid, etc. etc.

    Add on FX chains now in the PC, effectively putting as many FX bins anywhere in the chain you want, plus BREVERB and it really is a no brainer.
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    Re:Upgrading X1 to X2 - worth of 99 euros? 2012/11/11 15:24:52 (permalink)
    Depends on your OS and whether you will have to upgrade this too - diffferent OS spec to X1.
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    Re:Upgrading X1 to X2 - worth of 99 euros? 2012/11/11 15:34:36 (permalink)
    Not necessary, but for the toys you get its worth it.

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    Re:Upgrading X1 to X2 - worth of 99 euros? 2012/11/11 15:42:42 (permalink)
    I definitely think it' worth it, for the workflow enhancements alone.
     
    Take and automation lanes, smart grid, auto track zoom, zoom and scroll in the time ruler, to name a few.  It's fantastic.
     
    And also for the PC FXChains and Console Emulations - both great.

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    Re:Upgrading X1 to X2 - worth of 99 euros? 2012/11/11 16:11:48 (permalink)
    Not sure if i think its worth it yet. Take lanes, smart grid, and the rest of the work flow enhancements are cool, but no faster or easier for me having worked the old way so long. I haven't found any use for Rapture full yet, neither the Roland plugin. The Overloud Breverb is fantastic imo, it has plenty of presets and is plenty tweakable, but TH2 is a disappointment as it is a severely limited demo. Upgrading both of these to full will now cost around ~$500 i think. The audio engine is still not gapless either. So apart from Breverb and the Console Emulation, everything else is kind of whatever. I just really wish we had been given gapless playback and a more complete version of TH2. Maybe the content club will come through with some more goodies (the last offer was a bit of a cop out though as Loopmasters already offers free content for all their sample packs on their website).
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    Re:Upgrading X1 to X2 - worth of 99 euros? 2012/11/12 11:07:05 (permalink)
    One feature stands out (and there are more.... the fun part being all the gifts Sonar is handing out to their customers) TAKE LANES.... It's so handy to select a part you are gonna record and then play that part severall times. When you stop all the takes are available on their own track. You listen and then decide wich one you will keep... Really really handy and it's done to perfection.

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    Re:Upgrading X1 to X2 - worth of 99 euros? 2012/11/29 08:00:57 (permalink)
    Thank you for your answers (and sorry my crappy english)! Well, the thing is that I don't want to pay for all those LE-versions (TH2, Breverb) 'cos I don't need them. It seems to me that Sonar is turning to some kinda LE/demo-software commercial that comes with a really good DAW. I wanna pay for full versions and that's why I've bought Amplitube 3 and ValhallaRoom reverb. I'd like to see Cakewalk Sonar X3 that stands for its own: no third party software (old versions, "upgrade to version X: only 150 euros/dollars for Cakewalk customers"), no LE-versions of any kind, no demo versions, etc. I decided not to upgrade, at least not yet. Just sold my other PODxt Live (yeah, I had two of them) and bought Superior Drummer 2.3 w/ Custom & Vintage SDX. Don't get me wrong: Sonar is still my favourite DAW, but I don't want to put my money on those yesterdays third party software versions I don't need.
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    Re:Upgrading X1 to X2 - worth of 99 euros? 2012/11/29 08:37:44 (permalink)
    CW has often offered third party plugins going back to Sonar 1 XL. Some have been light versions some not. But in any case I wouldn't view these two plugins as something you are paying for. View them as really nice free versions for X2. They add value without an extra expense to you. Who knows you may really like them enough to opt for the full versions. 



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    Re:Upgrading X1 to X2 - worth of 99 euros? 2012/11/29 08:56:58 (permalink)
    Good point, John. I wanna tell you my bad upgrade experience: Well, I bought Sonar 7 Producer back in May/June 2008 and liked that Dimension LE so much that I decided to buy full version. So I bought it (about 200 euros) and three(?) months later Sonar 8 comes out WITH Dimension Pro! Have to say that I felt little bit cheated for spending hundreds of euros to Sonar 7 AND Dimension Pro.
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    Re:Upgrading X1 to X2 - worth of 99 euros? 2012/11/29 09:11:28 (permalink)

    They did almost the same with the PC4K stuff and the Concrete Limiter : i bought them at full price, and now there is a -50% offer.
    It seems it is better to wait before buying any extra stuff...

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    Re:Upgrading X1 to X2 - worth of 99 euros? 2012/11/29 09:14:23 (permalink)
    Timing is everything when buying something. Another way to look at it and the way I tend to see such things is two fold. First you had 7 months using it that others didn't. Second and most important at the time you were willing to buy it at that price. It held that high of value to you at that time. Latter when it was given out free that didn't devalue it as an item. It was and remains a fine sample player worth every penny you paid for it.

    I bought Rapture too before it was given out free. I don't regret it. One last thing to consider is that I think its a good thing to support a company like CW and if sometimes we buy something that later is free who does it really hurt? I think it doesn't hurt anyone as long as you can afford it. 

    Its support your DAW maker kind of thing.  

    But I know it can seem to be bad timing on one's part just the same. C'est la vie. 



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    Re:Upgrading X1 to X2 - worth of 99 euros? 2012/11/29 09:25:49 (permalink)
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    Good point, John. I wanna tell you my bad upgrade experience: Well, I bought Sonar 7 Producer back in May/June 2008 and liked that Dimension LE so much that I decided to buy full version. So I bought it (about 200 euros) and three(?) months later Sonar 8 comes out WITH Dimension Pro! Have to say that I felt little bit cheated for spending hundreds of euros to Sonar 7 AND Dimension Pro.


    Unfortunately this sort of thing happens all the time and as Jon rightly says, it's all about the timing on your part (which you couldn't foresee naturally)

    But you did have use of the software for the 3 months - don't for get this aspect.

    I too bought Rapture back in the summer, only to see it being part of X2.

    And, I don't think the full version of DP was 200 dollars - though keener memories than mine might prove me wrong.

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    Re:Upgrading X1 to X2 - worth of 99 euros? 2012/11/29 09:29:25 (permalink)

    C'est la vie, mais sous les fourches caudines du marketing, my dear.


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    Re:Upgrading X1 to X2 - worth of 99 euros? 2012/11/29 09:35:20 (permalink)
    Dimension Pro (Upgrade from LE): 162 euros (it seems that quoting/preview doesn't work with Firefox)
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