The Sunday Report...

Yup...still at work (and will be all week) on these last projects before Turkey Day and I've discovered even more X2 shennanigans. Although I hate to use this word...Randomly X2 will just start distorting "random" tracks. I'll be recording and editing as per usual when I'll just start hearing some zitzing and breakup somewhere in the project. I can go track be track and isolate the one or more tracks that are suddenly distorting but the only way to stop it is to shut X2 down and reopen it. Then, at least for awhile, the distortion goes away. I'm also having some craziness in Kontakt 5. Quite often inside K5's gui when I add a new instrument and set it's midi channel and output I'm able, as I should be, to highlight the appropriate track in X2 and play said instrument with my controller. The funny thing is that no matter how I reset the routing inside K5 I can only trigger the first instrument in the multi with the little keyboard gui in K5...sometimes. Most times it works fine. Go figure. I recently bought Groove3s X2 explained and that has helped me learn some of the "new ways" of X2. But really working it hard this past week or so I'm gonna have to say that at least for me (with all the PRV troubles I'veYup had, missing cursors and now random distortion) X2 is not quite ready for prime time.  Pity, cause I quite like it.
 
Geeze Louise I can't even post into the forum without weirdness.  Had to edit my post as it was scambled on initial entry.  Sorry
 

Hi Doghouse
Yes I had some strange stuff when I first tried X2 - in fact I went back to X1 as we are really busy recording at the moment and to be frank stopping to sort out niggly issues with X2 was going to get in the way.
Most of the issues I noticed in the few days I did try X2 exclusively, seemed to be, how can I put it, jumpy screen sort of things - nothing specific but there does seem to be a display issue  - the auto zoom feature certainly seemed less then well developed! And along with some other users, I'm not totally sold on lanes in place of layers.
Anyway X2 can sit to one side for the time being - I shall try again after first patch is released.
Keep well
Nigel

Oh Yea...I almost forgot.

Quite often (as in QUITE often) X2's meters just go crazy...as in they'll just show completely redlined/peaked forever whether anything is coming through that track or not...OR...when I'm trying to put down a guitar track or vocal track, for instance, they'll show level in the inspector on the left but not the track itself.  Like just now I recorded a scratch track vocal and the track meter showed nuttin honey but the wave form was recorded and displayed just fine.  Sheesh.

yorolpal


Oh Yea...I almost forgot.

Quite often (as in QUITE often) X2's meters just go crazy...as in they'll just show completely redlined/peaked forever whether anything is coming through that track or not...OR...when I'm trying to put down a guitar track or vocal track, for instance, they'll show level in the inspector on the left but not the track itself.  Like just now I recorded a scratch track vocal and the track meter showed nuttin honey but the wave form was recorded and displayed just fine.  Sheesh.

Are you using segmented meters?
When I first installed Sonar X2 meters were really funky for me.  I had to turn off the segmented meters under preferences and all was dandy then...
 
No promises tho...
 

And here's another thing...and this may not be a bug but by design...I know I can (and have) set my snap to toggle between Measure and 1 Sample using "N".  But lots of times I don't want to have to hold down N to make a bunch of sample/based edits.  So I'll simply "hard switch" the snap time to 1 Sample.  But the first time I select my resolution as Sample and enter "1" the snap dialog reverts to 1600 samples.  I then have to repeat the process and enter 1 again to get it to become 1.  It's frustrating.  Or am I a dimbulb?  Wait...don't answer that.

I have the same inability to trigger more than the first instrument in a K5 multi.  I believe this is a Native Instruments issue and not a Sonar issue.

I can say that I rely heavily on NI Komplete 8 Ultimate for many of my synth tracks, and I have yet to have any sort of random distortion such as what you report experiencing.

I am running with a lot of computer horsepower and also playing it safe by running my ASIO at 44.1 and 24-bit recording depth, maybe that helps a bit.

I do seem to recall that some prior programs/services I had running were jacking things up a bit - I have long since gotten rid of whatever they are.  Just maybe some things for you to evaluate on your system.

Sorry I don't have anything more in the way of a 'fix'.

Bob Bone

yorolpal


And here's another thing...and this may not be a bug but by design...I know I can (and have) set my snap to toggle between Measure and 1 Sample using "N".  But lots of times I don't want to have to hold down N to make a bunch of sample/based edits.  So I'll simply "hard switch" the snap time to 1 Sample.  But the first time I select my resolution as Sample and enter "1" the snap dialog reverts to 1600 samples.  I then have to repeat the process and enter 1 again to get it to become 1.  It's frustrating.  Or am I a dimbulb?  Wait...don't answer that.

Enter 01 instead of just 1 and it will stay at one sample.  I'd definitely call it a bug myself.
 
Dan

yorolpal


YThe funny thing is that no matter how I reset the routing inside K5 I can only trigger the first instrument in the multi with the little keyboard gui in K5...sometimes. Most times it works fine. 

If you want to use K5's gui keyboard with another instrument in the multi rack you need to set that instrument's midi channel to [A] 1 or omni. 
Is Kontakt not working when you do that??

I've said it before, and I'll say it again. Thank the Lord for Beta testers, like you guys! :O)

Still running X1 though I own X2(not downloaded yet). No time for bugs, it's crunch time in my studio.
Good luck and thanks for all the fixes! :O)

Hi Ludwig
As I said I loaded up and used X2 for a couple of days, then thought better of it and went back to X1 - far too busy making music to worry about software issues!
As a matter of interest, listened to some of your stuff - did you use Sonar for most of this? And can I ask why you choose Sonar - there are very few people in SA who have and use it from my experience - in fact in Cape Town I don't know of anyone else.
Keep ell
Nigel

SuperG

(with all the PRV troubles I'veYup had, missing cursors and now random distortion)

I spotted your PRV problems mention like a hawk, because I've been dealing with that also. I think I've nailed it down though. The PRV starts acting crazy, and may even cause a crash,  if you have a midi PGM change somewhere within in a midi track. If you have a the PRV open and set to the same track as one that shows a PGM change, and you either directly move the now pointer to where the PGM change is, or you scroll the PRV near enough it, you start getting a weird refresh and cursor trail in the PRV. If you close the PRV when this happens, and reopen it, you'll see all black. Anyway, whenever you see this strangeness in the PRV window, be sure to 'save' your project immediately - you're about to bomb.

I've been pulling my hair out and doubting my sanity, but I'm now able to demonstrate and replicate it every time. If I have time tomorrow, I'm gonna do a video screencap and post it on you-tube just to demonstrate the issue.

Please remember to report it to CW so they can hopefully fix it!

 

Quite often (as in QUITE often) X2's meters just go crazy...as in they'll just show completely redlined/peaked forever whether anything is coming through that track or not...OR...when I'm trying to put down a guitar track or vocal track, for instance, they'll show level in the inspector on the left but not the track itself.  Like just now I recorded a scratch track vocal and the track meter showed nuttin honey but the wave form was recorded and displayed just fine.  Sheesh.

I'm right there with ya.  Frozen meters are what I get a lot.  Just stuck at some random moment in time.