Bought an Alesis QX25 -now what??

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2012/11/12 23:53:10 (permalink)

Bought an Alesis QX25 -now what??

Lol. Boy do I feel dumb.
I just started using soft synths. (EG for Bass input) and folks highly recommended that I get a keyboard for real-time input.
So I bought an Alesis QX25 due to recommendations here.
I'm stunned by the lack of info tho. 
The manual simply describes the knobs functions..assuming I know what those functions are and how they would be used... Ha! big assumption.
I expected some start-up examples such as: 
"Using your QX25 for soft synth input:
1. plug it in to the USB port (It found itself)
2. run your recording program(Sonar)
3. install a soft synth to a track
4. set (something) to (something) and (something else) to (something else) etc in order to communicate with the track."
You can see where I come to a grinding halt.
Where can I find some basic instruction on getting started using this toy for input?




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    tomixornot
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    Re:Bought an Alesis QX25 -now what?? 2012/11/12 23:59:35 (permalink)
    This one for a start :

    http://youtu.be/X7QY3uIdzUQ

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    Re:Bought an Alesis QX25 -now what?? 2012/11/13 00:01:23 (permalink)
    You would probably not want to do anything with the control surface yet. 

    Just play around with the keys with soft synt and do some recording with modulation / pitch bend wheel.

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    Re:Bought an Alesis QX25 -now what?? 2012/11/13 00:18:30 (permalink)
    Lol, Thansk for replying but you are waaay ahead of me.
    I really have no clue here about MIDI devices.
    First things first.
    To start, the link you gave is for 8.5 & I have X1 but I think I get the initial process.
    They seem to assume the device would show up in preferences.
    If I go to Preferences, Midi, there is no Alesis QX25 showing up.
    There is my BR800 which I use as my sound card. no problem there.
    There is only one other check box for a "USB Audio Device"
    What now?


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    Re:Bought an Alesis QX25 -now what?? 2012/11/13 00:24:26 (permalink)

    Do you connect the keyboard via midi connector or usb ? For usb, you may need to install a driver.. have you done that ?

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    Re:Bought an Alesis QX25 -now what?? 2012/11/13 00:48:53 (permalink)
    I am using USB from the device to the computer.
    Ok, I used the USB one in Preferences and renamed it Alesis.
    I then opened a new song file
    then opened an SI Bass Synth and made a new track
    then I set the input to Alesis -omni and left the output to my BR800 for my Sound card.
    Then I put Input Echo on
    And I get sound! Woo Hoo.
    That was easier that I expected.
    Now I need to deal with the latency 
    I set the # of record buffers down to 10  and the playback to 20 but still get the delay.
    Any suggestions?


    post edited by M_Glenn_M - 2012/11/13 01:17:14


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    Re:Bought an Alesis QX25 -now what?? 2012/11/13 01:02:31 (permalink)
    What is the round trip latency reported at Preference-Driver Setting page ?

    Do you feel a delay between pressing the key and hearing a sound ? Anything below 10ms is good for me.

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    Re:Bought an Alesis QX25 -now what?? 2012/11/13 01:24:15 (permalink)
    That did help a lot, probably enough to play along.
    Thanks a bunch.
    I'm excited at the potential.


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    Re:Bought an Alesis QX25 -now what?? 2012/11/13 01:51:56 (permalink)
    the Mixing Latency shows 4 buffers 
    the buffer size I set to 10 and 
    the Effective latency at 44Khz says 30ms
    the wave profiler shows 16 bits ok all the way thru and 16, 24, 32 ok for 44K IN 


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    Re:Bought an Alesis QX25 -now what?? 2012/11/13 02:14:41 (permalink)
    With my (asio) Quad Capture driver, the Effective latency is greyed out.

    I can only access the ASIO panel to change latency setting, and the result are shown as Total Rountrip. 

    Are you using ASIO or WDM driver ?

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    Re:Bought an Alesis QX25 -now what?? 2012/11/13 02:28:48 (permalink)
    On Audio playback and recording, my driver mode says MME 32 bit. Would ASIO be better?


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    Re:Bought an Alesis QX25 -now what?? 2012/11/13 02:32:24 (permalink)
    Some system gets better result with one of them. You have to try out which one gives you a lower latency setting.

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    Re:Bought an Alesis QX25 -now what?? 2012/11/13 03:37:19 (permalink)
    Yes M_Glen Asio would be better.  Asio will give you better results than MME you'll get that latency down using the better driver.  You'll obviously have to have a sound card that uses Asio. After choosing ASIO you will then use the ASIO control panel to control the latency.  At the moment as you are using MME the ASIO button in preferences will be greyed out.  Once you change the driver it will become active.  You should then be able to get the latency down.

    The other driver option is WME, it's as good as ASIO, depending on what interface/soundcard you have WME may yeald better results than ASIO you will have to play with both.  

    With my Edirol UA101 I get better latency with WME but I find that ASIO is more stable. So it's a case of experimenting.

    If you don't have a pro sound card download the ASIO4ALL drivers this will allow you to get better results using your on board sound card.

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    Re:Bought an Alesis QX25 -now what?? 2012/11/13 03:41:31 (permalink)
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    the Mixing Latency shows 4 buffers 

    If that is referring to "Buffers in playback queue" reducing that to 2 will make a big difference to latency times
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    Re:Bought an Alesis QX25 -now what?? 2012/11/13 10:48:09 (permalink)
    Great thanks!
    It's all starting to work.
    Now I'll start learning about some of those mysterious other knobs and buttons and the overwhelming sh*t load of softsynth choices.
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    Re:Bought an Alesis QX25 -now what?? 2015/11/22 03:28:06 (permalink)
    ya i havebeen on my 2nd night trying to copy and paste the folder into the other invisible folder alesis thought id be adept enough to not only unlock so i can get my controller map to work and have id hope driver installed so i can get on with my lifeand music back on schedule.i work with soft synths i use my elec drums to trigger session drummer,etdc,im not a total dum dum.and im pretty angry at the time and energy it is taking to even get close to the 3 paragraph interlocking paths they tell me to follow so i can get things up to normal operations..i do my music for a living and this is somthing i will never forget as a maddening and also dangerous to my daws funtions misadventure,,,windows hides this folder i took all night to render visible for the reason of keeping .dll s and stuff people should not tamper with unless they really know the things that could go wrong.,...ANY HELP ON JUST GETTING THIS FILE PASTED IN THE RIGHT SPOT????ii just want to get back to my ##### work!!!
     
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    Re:Bought an Alesis QX25 -now what?? 2015/11/22 03:31:24 (permalink)
    the last 2 places icant reach after a tense night of effort and anger are.preferences /user remote scripts.....and it aint the p for preferences under the edit.
     
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    Re:Bought an Alesis QX25 -now what?? 2015/11/22 05:05:17 (permalink)
    I could not understand what you want to achieve... I do not have Alesis, but from the Web information it has no own drivers.
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    windows hides this folder i took all night to render visible for the reason of keeping .dll s and stuff people should not tamper with unless they really know the things that could go wrong.,...ANY HELP ON JUST GETTING THIS FILE PASTED IN THE RIGHT SPOT????ii just want to get back to my ##### work!!!

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