Bussing & Routing Dilemma

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2012/11/14 09:25:05 (permalink)

Bussing & Routing Dilemma

I need some assistance with some bus routing. Here's my dilemma. I am using a vst guitar amp on one track and a second different vst guitar amp on another track. Together they sound great and I've tried putting them in the same fx slot on only one track but the sound quality suffers. So in order to keep my sound, I need to use two tracks for every guitar part. I just clone the first track so each part is identical and add different vst amps. Here's where my problem lies. Should I add my tube booster and amp to the track itself or should I route each track to a bus and add the tube booster and amp there? Also, should the tube booster go before the amp or after? I imagine it should go before to boost the signal (probably a dumb question). But what if I also want to add a maximizer? Should that be in a bus and where in the order of plugins would I add it. Right now I have it after the amp. As it is right now, I have each separate track routed to it's own individual amp bus so that every new guitar track can go to the same two amp busses, thus saving cpu and effects processing. This setup works fine, except that I don't know if I should have a tube booster for each track or route each track to one tube booster or does it matter. This is where my mind is perplexed and boggled, and maybe yours will be too after trying to make sense of this. If the tube booster goes before the amp, then I think I'm going to need separate tube boosters because I can't route my two tracks to one tube booster and then route that out to my two separate amp busses (too bad that you can't route one bus out to two separate ones after). Then my two amp busses are routed to one eq bus completing my sound. If anyone can make sense of this and is willing to offer some advice, I'd be interested to see what other people would do.  

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    silvercn
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    Re:Bussing & Routing Dilemma 2012/12/11 16:51:52 (permalink)
    I was scanning the forums and saw that you have had a lot of hits to your post and no responses! You may want to try and re-post this on the "Techniques" forum, and maybe break it down into smaller questions. Your narrative is very long with multiple/overlaying questions that in and of themselves get kind of hard to follow. You can probab;y get some good answers....
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    Re:Bussing & Routing Dilemma 2012/12/11 17:11:11 (permalink)
    You most likely need one amp sim per guitar track - unless those two guitars never play at the same time. Amp sims should be used as track insert, on each individual guitar track. Bussing and sending multiple tracks to the same amp isn't really an option if you want good results. Unless you're after some experimental sonic mayhem.

    Though there are no rules, but if you're using a tube booster, it's likely that you should put it before the amp.

    To avoid CPU issues, freezing would be the best option.




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    Re:Bussing & Routing Dilemma 2012/12/11 17:55:58 (permalink)
    Well, to answer the part about bussing to an amp sim that is what I'm fooling w/ right now.  I inadvertently sent a guitar track out to a keyboard bus and it had double simming.  Sounded cool.  Too cool w/ the phaser.  Simply too much.  So I've used a prefade send to feed the key bus.  Works.  still haven't found the perfect mix between the two, but you might use the same idea w/ the second guitar.

    As for the fx chain question - I ain't a guitarist so I'd try everyway.

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    Re:Bussing & Routing Dilemma 2012/12/11 18:42:01 (permalink)
    I am glad I responded - It put the post at the top and now they are coming in with help. Yeah
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    Re:Bussing & Routing Dilemma 2012/12/15 02:33:36 (permalink)
    Thanks for the suggestions. I had a hard time trying to explain this in a non-complicated way. I appreciate the advice!  

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