For the Audiophiles

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2012/11/20 00:24:28 (permalink)

For the Audiophiles

Have just read the liner notes from the new Crazy Horse Psychedelic Pill cd and it says
"Signal Path A-A-D
Recorded on Universal Audio tube console (the green board) and Nieve BCM110 junior console
Recorded to Studer 2" eight track analogue tape and Pro Tools
Mixed to Ampex 1/2" 2 track analogue tape
Digital Mastering to 24bit/192khz and 16bit/44.1 by Tim Mulligan
Transferred to 24 bit/192khz and 24bit/176.4khz by John Hanlon"

thanks for that Neil...................



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    sharke
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    Re:For the Audiophiles 2012/11/20 00:45:35 (permalink)
    Has a bee in his bonnet about MP3's and digital compression, does Mr. Young. 

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    Re:For the Audiophiles 2012/11/20 01:04:44 (permalink)
    Wow! I wonder how many Jiggawatts that took to transfer?

    I find it interesting how most folks keep saying all you need is 24bit/44.1kHz, yet I keep reading about the big boys using triple digit sample rates.

    Id bet ya a dollar to a donut that its used quite extensively. I know I would use it all the time if my system power would allow, just for the simple fact that I could.

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    Re:For the Audiophiles 2012/11/20 01:27:52 (permalink)
    Yes, I’ve heard Mr. Young complain about that, and I’ve heard ol' Neil put digital down.  Well, I hope Neil Young will remember, the bakers don’t need him around anyhow.

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    Re:For the Audiophiles 2012/11/20 01:59:04 (permalink)
    If he was serious and didn`t spend his money on LincVolt and Pono he could have released the masters on vinyl only and bypassed the need for Pro Tools altogether.
    But then whats the bitrate/khz for a 45rpm vinyl album anyway?
    anyone?

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    Re:For the Audiophiles 2012/11/20 03:20:30 (permalink)
    quantumeffect


    Yes, I’ve heard Mr. Young complain about that, and I’ve heard ol' Neil put digital down.  Well, I hope Neil Young will remember, the bakers don’t need him around anyhow.

    LMAO!!!!
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    Re:For the Audiophiles 2012/11/20 03:50:28 (permalink)
    webbs hill studio


    If he was serious and didn`t spend his money on LincVolt and Pono he could have released the masters on vinyl only and bypassed the need for Pro Tools altogether.
    But then whats the bitrate/khz for a 45rpm vinyl album anyway?
    anyone?

    Let see, vinyl...


         about 60db dynamic, so that works out to about 10 bits.
         about 30khz  range, so 66150 sample rate (if same freq range/nyquist ratio as CD)

    The dynamic range sucks - it's why CD's stood out like a sore thumb when they first came out, because everyone was used to the high compression levels needed in vinyl mastering to keep the sound off the floor.

    Don't see why anyone would bother with analog recording unless they happen to like its audible artifacts. You're losing headroom and to gain some of it back you'll need to up the recording speed and/or user a compander (Dolby/Dbx)...

    The big beef with sampling (assuming you have enough dynamic range with the bit depth you've selected) is the sample rate. The reason for this twofold: the higher frequencies gain a phase error as they approach cutoff, up to 90deg. Two, the anti-aliasing filter need to be really heavy-duty (steep). If you up the sample rate, you halve the phases error, and you you can make a gentler anti-aliasing filter.

    Was reading up on DSP-stuff...guys were moaning about what was the best way to generate saws and triangle waves considering it needed to be anti-alias filtered to fit in 20khz... not an easy job.


    Now me brain hurts...

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    Re:For the Audiophiles 2012/11/20 07:07:46 (permalink)
    webbs hill studio


    Have just read the liner notes from the new Crazy Horse Psychedelic Pill cd and it says
    "Signal Path A-A-D
    Recorded on Universal Audio tube console (the green board) and Nieve BCM110 junior console
    Recorded to Studer 2" eight track analogue tape and Pro Tools
    Mixed to Ampex 1/2" 2 track analogue tape
    Digital Mastering to 24bit/192khz and 16bit/44.1 by Tim Mulligan
    Transferred to 24 bit/192khz and 24bit/176.4khz by John Hanlon"

    thanks for that Neil...................



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    Re:For the Audiophiles 2012/11/20 07:27:05 (permalink)
    I wonder if Mr "FUSonar" from upstairs had anything to do with this?  2" 8-track? What a waste.

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    Re:For the Audiophiles 2012/11/20 12:26:30 (permalink)
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    Yes, I’ve heard Mr. Young complain about that, and I’ve heard ol' Neil put digital down.  Well, I hope Neil Young will remember, the bakers don’t need him around anyhow.


    And above all ... that he will remembered a lot more after he says goodbye, thanks to the digital miracle!

    As a wise Guy once stated from his holy chapala ... none of the hits, none of the time ... prevents you from becoming just another turkey in the middle of all the other turkeys! 
      
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