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2012/11/23 12:16:18 (permalink)

first-time sonar user with time signature question

I'm running the Producer trial. I'm loving the sound of the pro channel and the general look and feel, but coming from DP and Reason I have a couple questions on time signature.  

for example, in dp, time sig gets its own track and I can copy and paste changes in the sig around the project. if I have a chorus with two measures of 3/4 and one of 2/4, I can lay out the changes first, hammering out the fills and bass and then I can move it around as I add more verses, intros, etc. can I do this in sonar? I figured out how to change the time sig at "bar x" but can I copy paste and generally moves those parts around, or do I have to add them more or less linearly? that kind of sucks if I have to do that.
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    Re:first-time sonar user with time signature question 2012/11/23 13:45:22 (permalink) ☄ Helpful

    Views > Tempo (Alt+Shift+5) will get you the Tempo View, and you can select a region in the timeline and use Alt+Ctrl+C to Copy Special, and uncheck everything but Tempos. Then paste as usual.





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    Re:first-time sonar user with time signature question 2012/11/23 13:48:52 (permalink) ☄ Helpful
    Also Views > Meter/Key (Alt+Shift+6) will give you access to time sigs.

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    Re:first-time sonar user with time signature question 2012/11/23 14:14:50 (permalink) ☄ Helpful
    Oops. Got thinking about tempos instead of meters. The same pretty much applies to meters, except the Meter/Key view does not include a timeline to see how they're laid out and select a range. But you can select ranges by dragging or Shift-clicking in the list view, and there's a checkbox for Meter/Key changes in the Copy Special dialog.

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    Re:first-time sonar user with time signature question 2012/11/23 23:45:00 (permalink)
    Thanks for your help. It was nice to find i can draw in my own tempo automation as well.
     
    i suppose it's a bit of a letdown that there isn't really much of a way to tell there are multiple time sigs in a song at a glance. only if you notice a difference in spacing between the grid can you tell.  with both DP and Reason, it's pretty obvious (i keep going back to those becuase it's all i ever used).
     
    Now I need to search on why i'm getting pops and why i can only have one Reason input in cake walk. But that's for a different post.
     
    thanks
     
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    Re:first-time sonar user with time signature question 2012/11/25 10:33:01 (permalink)
    You only get one instance of Reason because that's all Rewire can handle at a time.


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    Re:first-time sonar user with time signature question 2012/11/25 10:56:53 (permalink)
    It would definitely be nice to have a visual time sig indication, but in the meantime, as a workaround, you can insert markers into the Time Ruler. Position the Now Time and press M to insert a marker. Then you can name it with the new time sig. But of course, this won't actually insert a time sig. change.

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    Re:first-time sonar user with time signature question 2012/12/21 11:29:20 (permalink)
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    You only get one instance of Reason because that's all Rewire can handle at a time.
     
    Are you sure? in DP i can make up to 64 aux tracks and then match each one with one of Reason's 64 outputs. I haven't seen how to do that in Sonar yet. The reason to do this is so i can print multiple reason tracks to my Host DAW. if Sonar can only do two at once, then I'd have to solo the track and i want to print and do each track one at a time. what a time killer!
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