32 and 64 bit Questions

64 bit Windows will have two separate folder structures...

C:\Program files - for 64 bit programs
C:\Program files (x86) for 32 bit programs

For VST Purposes there will be several options..these are the Cakewalk options

C:\Program Files\Cakewalk\Vstplugins - 64 bit
C:\Program Files (x86)\Cakewalk\Vstplugins - 32 bit

Placing\Installing the DLL's in the 32 bit folder would be the best place to put them so that
they can be appropriately categorized by Sonar...

Cheers!

Thanks cclarry.
 
Just to wrap my hear around this. If I put them in the 32 bit folder and I am using the 64 bit version and then decide to use one of the 32 bit plugins, the 64 bit version of Sonar XL will know right where to go to use it?

The VST folder paths are initially set (suggested) at install, and thereafter you can change/add/delete folders by going to Tools>Cakewalk Plugin Manager and setting the paths to however you like.

Bob Bone

Bristol_Jonesey

Quite honestly, if a 32 bit plug works for you in a 64 bit system, there's not a lot to be gained from freezing the track afterwards.

It will either work or it won't ...

Sure ... go 'head alto1.

Don't worry about.

Just ignore the multitude of threads and posts about 32bit plug's in a 64bit environment ...

Good luck with that.

+1 to Bristol's comment (and 'if' clause).  The majority of my plugs are 32-bit, and I did try working in S64 for a while with mixed results.  However, I've not yet reached the point where the plug stability:performance ratio is at the point where it is worth me making the full time switch to S64.

I suspect when I eventually upgrade my pc I'll go to 64, but right now I'm happy with the constraints of 32.

Bristol_Jonesey

You forgot to read the "if"

Sure. Whatever you say chief. :)

Like I said, go 'head alto1. Have at 'er. Come back and let us know how you made out with all those old 32bit plug ins in Sonar x64.

In my experience, especially with reverb's (one that comes to mind is that free one called Ambiance Reverb), the 32bit one's, especially the free ones like Ambiance, randomly crash with no warning, in a non-repeatable pattern. I've encountered this a lot as I'm a cheap bastard and try out all the free VST's I can. Most of them, especially the older ones, are not stable in a 64bit environment running through Bitbridge or even Jbridge. (Jbridge is the same as Bitbridge, only they charge you for it). They work fine in Sonar 32, but really give you headaches in Sonar 64 ... or any 64bit DAW. I'm not singling out Sonar.

But, like I said ... have at 'er. Don't listen to me. ;)

Dont forget to experiment with JBRIDGE.

Update: I decided that I really ought to install X2 64bit last weekend.  So far it has been flawless, working with both 32 and 64 bit plugs.  Since I did a completely clean install, I have massively limited the number of vst plugs (especially all those freebies) which I can't help feeling are the source of a lot of issues. I still have 32 in the wings, but looking to stay put on 64 if I can.

I would say 'touch wood', but that gives me a slightly creepy feeling...

alto1


I'm taking the plunge with a new computer 64 bit OS WIN 7. I have many old 32 bit plugins that I still want to use. Thus I know I can run Sonar X1 in 32 bit or 64 bit. My main question is where do those dll's go. Do I have to put them in two locations since sometimes I may have to use the 32 bit version. Any and all explanations on this would be great. This is all new and confusing, I feel like I'm coming from the old country.

Sometimes many think their old plugins only support x32. When they later on check the manufacturer they get really surprised that the x32bit old plugin they used already are available in a new x64bit version. Even though "IF" your plugin are only available in x32bit you can install and use it in SONAR X64. Don't worry!
 
Today 99.9% of all big manufacturies support native x64 and have all their plugins in x64.