Controller Pane: - How to isolate individual controllers, and by 1 channel only?

You may want to do it on one track at a time. 

Bristol_Jonesey


I wholeheartedly agree with John.

You will find so much flexibility by not having everything all jammed onto one track, and the controller you want to work with can easily be customized for each instrument, making it a lot cleaner visually.

Split them out into however many Midi tracks you need, then open them one at a time in the PRV, Docking & Locking as you go.

This way, each instrument is only a click away.

 
First, for more clarity, I haven't purchased it yet. I've got 14 more days to evaluate.

They're not all on one track. These are multiple tracks in one PRV grouped by orchestral section. Brass, WWinds, Strings etc.
and then a full PRV of everything except percussion.
And the reason for that is to watch the harmonic structure of the piece. I enter data by playing (Yamaha S90) and also with the
pencil and other tools. Every instrument is always on it's own midi track whe I work.

Even so, I've tried opening individual / single tracks from a large PRV by selecting that track (on the right) and then ALT+V+P
but it doesn't seem reliable.

In 4.0.2 I live, record, edit, in PRV and rarely see track view.
Usually 7 to 10 PRV windows all pinned (locked) and use CTRL+TAB or ALT+W+number to flip through pages very quickly.
Both of those short cuts are gone now in X2.

I'm not opposed to developing a new work flow, but one track at a time would be like going back to the stone age
especially when I use my full PRV to adjust harmonies across the whole orchestra.
So ... see my next post and maybe some one will have a solution to some of the problems encountered after some adaptation.
Thanks!

Steve - what you're attempting to do might be possible by using different screensets.

The guy to ask about this is Karl (Fast Biker Boy) - he's on the forum quite often so watch out for him - he might even see this thread and jump in, or you could drop him a PM

  Jonesey: Screenshots sounds promising. I'll try it when I wake up tomorrow. Thanks!

ALT+C to hide controller pane at bottom and spew them all over the PRV > Choose "Controllers"

Is there no option for "Deselect all" to be found anywhere?

Kind of!
 
1. Close the controller views individually, or
 
2. "Hide" the controller pane by clicking and dragging down the separator bar at the top of the controller pane.
 
*Be careful not to drag it all the way down or it will switch to "Hide Controller Pane" and "spew" them all over the PRV again - a new feature in X2 that is a  real "pain".
 
Steve

  I setup 3 screensets and tried it.

Unfortunately X2 will not *save* the window size and state (when the project is saved) for the PRV in 2 specific areas, and this is even after locking the specific screenset and then saving the project.

The areas it won't remember are: 1) The width of the side panels, and more importantly, the left controller list / piano keyboard panel.

2) Most importantly it won't save/remember the height of the controller pane after it's been dragged up most of the way.

3) I'm also seeing many crashes when switching screensets before they are locked and the project is saved / reopened.

So although screensets is a step in the right direction for this workflow, I think we're dealing with an incomplete beta version here in X2.

Hopefully they'll get it working properly. I'll be waiting a while to see. Evaluation is finished with no sale.

Also, luckily I'm still way ahead of X2 with the functionality of 4.0.2.
4.0.2 literally smokes X2 for large scale midi production in my opinion (128+ tracks - 10 or more PRV pinned open)
It looks more defined, has many hot keys*** that have been removed from X2
and it's only down side that I see is it can't run on Win7 Pro. ( or can it ??? where's the fix for that? )

*** CTRL+TAB to flip through open windows
ALT+W+number to switch between open windows.

I use CTRL-TAB to switch windows all the time, though I am using multiple monitors and undocked windows. Sonar's current interface seems impossibly fubar for a single monitor setup in my opinion. But it works okay in multiple monitor mode. Everything is still a little weird. PRV controllers and the "A" key being removed for displaying multiple tracks is indeed a royal pain in the butt, and I miss very much the quick and efficient ways of the old 8.5 and below PRV days.

Alas though, the Prochannel, and track view are awesome. I hope that Cakewalk starts to refocus on good MIDI scoring capabilities. Not so much adding new features as restoring/fixing efficiency in the PRV and Staff views.