You and I - balladish

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2012/11/30 21:39:58 (permalink)

You and I - balladish

Hi this is song #8 on my album and here I have help from Per on the drums and on the disco-strings - I have discussed the timing of those but he say that it should be like this and who am I compared to the best drummer in Sweden;-) Any thoughts are welcome. http://soundcloud.com/egon1/youandi
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    bapu
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    Re:You and I - balladish 2012/12/02 02:47:46 (permalink)
    The drums seem lost in the mix to me. And/or maybe too much reverb. But, as you say, who am I compare to the best drummer in Sweden?


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    Re:You and I - balladish 2012/12/02 12:09:44 (permalink)
    This is a good song swimming in a pool of f/x.  I would love to hear a warmer, more intimate vocal because you have a good voice that may not need so much dressing.  There's a pearl in there somewhere.

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    Re:You and I - balladish 2012/12/03 11:56:11 (permalink)
    beautiful song .. sounds nice, but I'd like to hear a clearer mix 


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    Re:You and I - balladish 2012/12/03 12:06:10 (permalink)
    Very cool tune, but I must agree with the above crits... keep at it...
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    Re:You and I - balladish 2012/12/04 06:27:22 (permalink)
    Nice song. Mix needs some work though, it's very small and narrow sounding. The drums are quite widely spread but the rest is very indistinct, I would suggest making a lot more use of the stereo field with the strings, open up the centre for the vocals and bass.

     
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    Re:You and I - balladish 2012/12/04 11:39:38 (permalink)
    Straining to hear the drums. The kick is hard to detect. I suspect that the kick and the bass is sharing the same fundamental frequencies. The song itself is good and your voice fits it great. the guitar solos are nice too. near the end I found the guitar solos a little hard to hear. aside from a few mixing fixes it sounds like you got another great song here Eko

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    Re:You and I - balladish 2012/12/04 18:31:25 (permalink)
    Bapu: The drums seem lost in the mix to me. And/or maybe too much reverb. But, as you say, who am I compare to the best drummer in Sweden? It is probably my less of mixing skill it hangs on - but Per said OK so who am I.....;-) Thnx for a good input Bapu/eko
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    Re:You and I - balladish 2012/12/04 18:34:24 (permalink)
    Lynn: This is a good song swimming in a pool of f/x. I would love to hear a warmer, more intimate vocal because you have a good voice that may not need so much dressing. There's a pearl in there somewhere. Thnx Lynn it is a great deal of fx on this and a cleaning up seems to be in order. As always good advice Lynn thnx/eko
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    Re:You and I - balladish 2012/12/04 18:36:08 (permalink)
    Makke:beautiful song .. sounds nice, but I'd like to hear a clearer mix Thnx Makke I'll try to accomplish that./eko
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    Re:You and I - balladish 2012/12/04 18:38:33 (permalink)
    notnat: Very cool tune, but I must agree with the above crits... keep at it... I will certainly try do that Thnx for your comment./eko
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    Re:You and I - balladish 2012/12/04 18:42:09 (permalink)
    James: Nice song. Mix needs some work though, it's very small and narrow sounding. The drums are quite widely spread but the rest is very indistinct, I would suggest making a lot more use of the stereo field with the strings, open up the centre for the vocals and bass. Do you OK the drums? then. Well I have to listen from everyone's perspective for the total - but thnx James for a nice comment.
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    Re:You and I - balladish 2012/12/04 18:43:28 (permalink)
    I'm hearing some timing anomalies in the continuity between the bass and drums/beat. Specifically, the bass is slightly off time (cardinal sin, I'm a bass player)

    And it feels like different instruments are recorded in different places? Not sure how to recommend how to fix that as I struggle with the mixing personally. It's probably a reverb thing. The lead guitar is buried in the mix.

    I liked the song, but struggled to understand the singer (sounds a little muddy) I think this is mainly the verb, but could also benefit from some EQing. 

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    Re:You and I - balladish 2012/12/04 18:46:50 (permalink)
    Marcus: Straining to hear the drums. The kick is hard to detect. I suspect that the kick and the bass is sharing the same fundamental frequencies. The song itself is good and your voice fits it great. the guitar solos are nice too. near the end I found the guitar solos a little hard to hear. aside from a few mixing fixes it sounds like you got another great song here Eko - How nice of you to say so Marcus but you didnt agree with James as I could understand it - it leaves the field open for me to talk steps maybe not really knowing to where - that's funny too ;-) Thnx Marcus for your opinion on this/eko
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    Re:You and I - balladish 2012/12/04 18:53:46 (permalink)
    TheBand19: I'm hearing some timing anomalies in the continuity between the bass and drums/beat. Specifically, the bass is slightly off time (cardinal sin, I'm a bass player) And it feels like different instruments are recorded in different places? Not sure how to recommend how to fix that as I struggle with the mixing personally. It's probably a reverb thing. The lead guitar is buried in the mix. I liked the song, but struggled to understand the singer (sounds a little muddy) I think this is mainly the verb, but could also benefit from some EQ:ing. Well I am a bass owner and that don't make me a bass player so you are probably right. The strings was meant to come and go but they might be a little to hut in entry, The lead was also meant to be just buried in the song right or wrong what do I know - anyway you got me new perspectives thnx for that The Band 19
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    Re:You and I - balladish 2012/12/05 11:53:02 (permalink)
    The song is good but I agree on the FX. 

    Don't try to cover up things with FX like reverb. Fix the issues (if any)  and go for a cleaner mix. 

    To use a heavy reverb in certain places for effect is OK, but don't overload the mix and bury it in verb. 

    I will sometimes put a heavier verb on a certain instrument in the mix.... this gives the ambiance of that heavy verb in and too the mix.... BUT... on the vocals and the other instruments the verb is kept to a barely noticeable minimum.... that gives them the presence in the mix with enough verb to smooth things out which they need, and the mix sounds clean.



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    Re:You and I - balladish 2012/12/06 02:04:46 (permalink)
    I did not actually read your text until after I listened. My first impression was the drums seemed a little generic. My second was the bass tone was muddy and boomy. Third was the guitars seemed a tad washed out. I don't mean to be harsh, but I think a bit more work is needed on this one.

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    Re:You and I - balladish 2012/12/06 13:50:31 (permalink)
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    The song is good but I agree on the FX. 

    Don't try to cover up things with FX like reverb. Fix the issues (if any)  and go for a cleaner mix. 

    To use a heavy reverb in certain places for effect is OK, but don't overload the mix and bury it in verb. 

    I will sometimes put a heavier verb on a certain instrument in the mix.... this gives the ambiance of that heavy verb in and too the mix.... BUT... on the vocals and the other instruments the verb is kept to a barely noticeable minimum.... that gives them the presence in the mix with enough verb to smooth things out which they need, and the mix sounds clean.
    Ok I agree this was a new headphone-mix in the night. I will bare your vision with me.
    Thnx for the listening and advice Guitarhacker
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    Re:You and I - balladish 2012/12/06 13:54:01 (permalink)
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    I did not actually read your text until after I listened. My first impression was the drums seemed a little generic. My second was the bass tone was muddy and boomy. Third was the guitars seemed a tad washed out. I don't mean to be harsh, but I think a bit more work is needed on this one.


    Thnx foxwolfen for the listening and your suggestions I will pass on the drum thoughts to Per and the rest I have to work with
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    Re:You and I - balladish 2012/12/08 17:33:03 (permalink)
    I'd like to have the leadsong much closer in. Your nick 'Eko', has that got anything to do with overdoing the reverb/echo thing? ;-)
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