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hiss sound in exported files - Sonar X2 Essentials

 I have a mix that sounds good when I listen to it in Sonar X2. Once I export it, hiss starts creeping in slowly and becomes worse with time. Verified with Wave (16 and 24 bit) as well as MP3 (16 bit) export. I am definitely disappointed - I acquired the software recently and expect basic things to work. Yes - I am running on Windows 8. Ravi
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    Re:hiss sound in exported files - Sonar X2 Essentials 2012/12/05 07:27:06 (permalink)
    So, are you saying that the more times you listen to your Export, the more you're getting hiss?

    What on earth are you playing it through?

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    Re:hiss sound in exported files - Sonar X2 Essentials 2012/12/05 07:57:16 (permalink)
    Can you post your Spec so we can help?

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    Re:hiss sound in exported files - Sonar X2 Essentials 2012/12/05 08:07:54 (permalink)
    And the export settings you are using would help too.

    Export to Wav at 44.1/16bit as a start.  If there's no 'hiss' in the X2 mix, there is no reason you'd hear artefacts on the export.  Unless you are using a demo synth that introduces hiss as part of the crippleware (Diva does this for example).

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    Re:hiss sound in exported files - Sonar X2 Essentials 2012/12/05 08:21:25 (permalink)
    You must be using the new analog true cassette tape plugin. Is it live or is it true cassette?

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    Re:hiss sound in exported files - Sonar X2 Essentials 2012/12/05 08:22:05 (permalink)
    The easiest way to confirm that your export has rendered properly is simply to re-import it back into the same Sonar project - solo it and route it's output directly to your soundcard, bypassing any busses

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    Re:hiss sound in exported files - Sonar X2 Essentials 2012/12/05 10:15:49 (permalink)
    As wood67 said. Some plugins (older Voxengo?) would generate intermittant white noise after the trial period expired.
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    Re:hiss sound in exported files - Sonar X2 Essentials 2012/12/05 10:27:18 (permalink)
    John


    You must be using the new analog true cassette tape plugin. Is it live or is it true cassette?




    Nice one John

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    Re:hiss sound in exported files - Sonar X2 Essentials 2012/12/05 10:53:54 (permalink)
    +1 to the trial plug in, I had that happen before, but it did it while still in Sonar.. drove me nuts until I by passed all efxs to narrow it down. 
    I can't think of how you could write code that "new" you were exporting however. 

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    Re:hiss sound in exported files - Sonar X2 Essentials 2012/12/05 14:14:47 (permalink)
    Thanks for the pointers.
     
    Additional information:
    System: Windows 8, Sonar X2 Essentials, Tascam US-1641 interface
    Track 1: Vocals --> Cakewalk FX Compressor/Gate ("Light Vocal Compression" preset) --> Cakewalk Reverb (Room preset)
    Track 2: Guitar --> Cakewalk FX Compressor/Gate ("Acoustic Guitar Compression" preset with Output Gain being set to 0.0 dB) --> Reverb (Room preset HP filter turned on)
    Track 3: Guitar --> Cakewalk FX Compressor/Gate ("Acoustic Guitar Compression" preset with Output Gain being set to 0.0 dB) --> Reverb (Room preset HP filter turned on)
     
    This is my first mix and I wanted to keep things simple. When I said the hiss gets progressively noisy in Wave/MP3 format, it starts around 1:30 into the song and keeps getting worse. The song is about 8 minutes long.
     
    I will definitely try removing the compressor and reverb, and see what happens.
     
    Thanks!
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    Re:hiss sound in exported files - Sonar X2 Essentials 2012/12/05 14:36:17 (permalink)
    I notice you a Tascam US-1641 and I checked it doesn't have Windows 8 drivers yet. That could be your problem. The last driver is dated from 2010. 

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    Re:hiss sound in exported files - Sonar X2 Essentials 2012/12/06 00:09:05 (permalink)
    John


    I notice you a Tascam US-1641 and I checked it doesn't have Windows 8 drivers yet. That could be your problem. The last driver is dated from 2010. 

    Thanks John. I will look into that. 
     
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    Re:hiss sound in exported files - Sonar X2 Essentials 2012/12/06 03:15:13 (permalink)
    I am happy to report the issue is fixed!!!
     
    In listening to the mix again, the hiss was there even when I listen to it in X2. Hence, it is not just an Export issue. Once I removed the Stereo Reverb from the tracks, hiss went away. I wonder if the lesson is not to use stereo reverb in a mono track?
     
    Thanks for the clues!
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    Re:hiss sound in exported files - Sonar X2 Essentials 2012/12/06 06:57:06 (permalink)
    You need to use dubley.

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    Re:hiss sound in exported files - Sonar X2 Essentials 2012/12/06 09:01:38 (permalink)
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    You need to use dubley.


    Not if it's a rock track.  Everyone knows you don't record rock with dubley, surely?

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    Re:hiss sound in exported files - Sonar X2 Essentials 2012/12/06 09:26:42 (permalink)
    I would suspect a plugin. Try exporting a file with global bypass enabled and see if the hiss is still there. I recently noticed a subtle hiss in an export and realized it was coming from a tape sim. I just hadn't noticed it until I sat back with headphones and listened closely, away from the computer.


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