thearclight
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Re:Sonar X2 Testimonial "Music Tech" & "Computer Music Magazine"
2012/12/12 03:07:23
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I have to say (what I forgot to say...;)...Yes, in our studio (not at my projectstudio)...C7 is running like hell for the moment...looking great, feels great...but at the moment it´s not enough to grab an upgrade for my projectstudio, too. Maybe it will be the point, when I´ll get my first own 27" touchscreen (Acer and AOC are working on budget monitors). Cause, C7 on Windows 8 and an 22" touchscreen for testing in our studio...jesus... ...this could change the whole f...cking workflow we were stucked to, since ages... ...it´s great...won´t miss it after 2 day tryings... ...So...I wish for later 2013...Sonar X2 with an fully integrated Touchscreen ability... ;)
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Re:Sonar X2 Testimonial "Music Tech" & "Computer Music Magazine"
2012/12/12 11:02:08
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I don't understand why the original poster child for this thread did not thoroughly test out the product through a trial version prior to betting the farm on it. Yes, there was a delay in one being offered, all the more reason to wait a bit of time for one prior to jumping to it. That's just a foolish move on his part - (one of many). I deliberately keep at least one and sometimes two desktops handy for trying things out - like Windows 8, or free trials of things like X2. Who in their right mind would buy a car without a test drive? (I am ignoring the rest of his stupidity here) Bob Bone
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Re:Sonar X2 Testimonial "Music Tech" & "Computer Music Magazine"
2012/12/13 00:39:14
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CakeAlexS To be honest most reviews are paid in some way other directly or indirectly nowadays... (i.e. via a PR firm or commercials). Are you serious? Many companies these days ask for the reviewer's or edirtor's credit card before they'll even ship out the unit, and require signing loan documents with specific loan periods. PR firms send out press releases, and can tell reviewers who to contact at companies for more information. Ads pay for pages, not content. At least that's the way things work at Harmony Central and Electronic Musician magazine. I guess we're just behind the times  As to how things work at Amazon...no comment.
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Re:Sonar X2 Testimonial "Music Tech" & "Computer Music Magazine"
2012/12/13 00:49:20
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the wildman His one many of like post om previous one at top page from this ones. His no likey x2 but he know nothing what he on about much think me. I watch Borat movie for lesson and clearing much up now the post. Plenty catch up to speeding for forum cakewalking. Hope thats cleared up your question! This funny really be
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Re:Sonar X2 Testimonial "Music Tech" & "Computer Music Magazine"
2012/12/13 10:20:16
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Deer Crag, I wil right for Electronic Musician if yu wil just sen me some hardwar. and let me kep it. And pay me two. @ ps it wil b good reviw.
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Re:Sonar X2 Testimonial "Music Tech" & "Computer Music Magazine"
2012/12/13 10:49:30
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Allow me to respond in the OP's language: For nice journalism can magazine be paid but not in Sonar X2 which to be fixed pretty but still working. So sad.
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thearclight
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Re:Sonar X2 Testimonial "Music Tech" & "Computer Music Magazine"
2012/12/13 11:38:30
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...still funny... All the magazines are just another part of entertainment...nothing really more. I´m not interested in how many €/$ are on it´s way, while the parcel service delivering the new gear to the editors... ...We´re all got our "networks", "friends" and we´d got the chance to "trial" things out...and than... DECIDE...!!! The guys who are still believing in press and editors choices for and inside magazines... ...also still believe in Santa Claus...or in Germany...der Weihnachtsmann...;)
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Re:Sonar X2 Testimonial "Music Tech" & "Computer Music Magazine"
2012/12/13 12:44:16
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also still believe in Santa Claus Hey, what are you trying to say????
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Re:Sonar X2 Testimonial "Music Tech" & "Computer Music Magazine"
2012/12/13 13:03:12
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axl59 I'm back. seen on www.cakewalk.com Both magazines have they tested Sonar X2? It is true that is pretty, but not finished. Then give positive feedback for software not finished, Cakewalk had to pay the journalist for a nice story. They are ready to discredit it their business to help Cakewalk. It's beautiful, I will cry. Meanwhile, given no solution to correct or improve SONAR X2. No comment When X1 was released, a review had come out about how great it was and went in to great detail about how smooth some of the features worked. It turns out that some of the features that were supposedly tested didn't even work when X1 was released. X1 was released with those functions broken and there is absolutely no way that the reviewers could have tested the software. They were just going off the bullet points that Cakewalk released and never even installed the software to check it out themselves. There was another review that posted screen shots of some new features in X1 ... and those screen shots were from Sonar 5 or 6 if I remember correctly? It was a very old screen shot of the Step Sequencer. I lost all respect/faith or whatever you want to call it, in these online reviews, especially reviews in magazines. I imagine it's that way with almost everything that is reviewed ... it's just that I caught them in a bold faced lie when X1 was reviewed and it really opened my eyes to the scam these review magazines have going.
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Re:Sonar X2 Testimonial "Music Tech" & "Computer Music Magazine"
2012/12/13 13:37:25
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Bub, what mag? Anyway, that logic fails. It is like saying I've read "problems w/ SONAR xyz" that were user errors instead. Therefore there are no problems w/ SONAR xyz at all. Yet you insist yours were real. Cake admitted one problem you had was a bug. But that doesn't matter, because someone else reported a bug that was user error. Reviews are just that - reviews to help users decide to buy/upgrade. If you decide all reviewers/reviews/mags are evil scam, that doesn't mean others might find them as helpful as you find them distasteful. Or that you might learn something you didn't know. @
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Re:Sonar X2 Testimonial "Music Tech" & "Computer Music Magazine"
2012/12/13 15:15:24
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When X1 was released, a review had come out about how great it was and went in to great detail about how smooth some of the features worked. It turns out that some of the features that were supposedly tested didn't even work when X1 was released. X1 was released with those functions broken and there is absolutely no way that the reviewers could have tested the software. They were just going off the bullet points that Cakewalk released and never even installed the software to check it out themselves. If I remember correctly some functions were working in the pre-release and not working in the actual release. Possible the review was based on the pre-release.
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Re:Sonar X2 Testimonial "Music Tech" & "Computer Music Magazine"
2012/12/13 17:53:06
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rabeach When X1 was released, a review had come out about how great it was and went in to great detail about how smooth some of the features worked. It turns out that some of the features that were supposedly tested didn't even work when X1 was released. X1 was released with those functions broken and there is absolutely no way that the reviewers could have tested the software. They were just going off the bullet points that Cakewalk released and never even installed the software to check it out themselves. If I remember correctly some functions were working in the pre-release and not working in the actual release. Possible the review was based on the pre-release. I seem to remember that too, and it is likely that the reviews were based on the pre-release version, is it not. But that is far more boring than making up paranoid conspiracy theories, isn't it? I've never reviewed music tech for magazines, but I've done my fair share of record reviews/ interviews for magazines, and have not been told what to say by the editor, or been bribed by the artist. I think this is nonsense. Whether or not we trust a reviewer's opinion is another matter. After a while I learn which reviewers I do trust.
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Re:Sonar X2 Testimonial "Music Tech" & "Computer Music Magazine"
2012/12/14 03:13:29
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Bub axl59 I'm back. seen on www.cakewalk.com Both magazines have they tested Sonar X2? It is true that is pretty, but not finished. Then give positive feedback for software not finished, Cakewalk had to pay the journalist for a nice story. They are ready to discredit it their business to help Cakewalk. It's beautiful, I will cry. Meanwhile, given no solution to correct or improve SONAR X2. No comment When X1 was released, a review had come out about how great it was and went in to great detail about how smooth some of the features worked. It turns out that some of the features that were supposedly tested didn't even work when X1 was released. X1 was released with those functions broken and there is absolutely no way that the reviewers could have tested the software. They were just going off the bullet points that Cakewalk released and never even installed the software to check it out themselves. There was another review that posted screen shots of some new features in X1 ... and those screen shots were from Sonar 5 or 6 if I remember correctly? It was a very old screen shot of the Step Sequencer. I lost all respect/faith or whatever you want to call it, in these online reviews, especially reviews in magazines. I imagine it's that way with almost everything that is reviewed ... it's just that I caught them in a bold faced lie when X1 was reviewed and it really opened my eyes to the scam these review magazines have going. That kind of thing drives me up the wall, because then people say "oh, magazine reviews are BS" without realizing that some mags really try to do it right. I can give you plenty of examples. The magazine that ripped off some Sound on Sound reviews, almost word for word. The magazine that wrote a "review" of a product that was a cut and paste job from the product manual I wrote!! And my personal favorite: the one about how Sonar sucked because you couldn't even place the now time where you wanted it (he didn't know to turn off snap to audio crossings). I could go on...well, one more. A reviewer complained about a product not having a specific and very important feature. The manufacturer was confused: "but we do have that feature, read pages 20-22 of the manual." Yes, it was there. I called up the author and told him that feature was described in the manual, did he check out the manual? The immortal answer: "Well, I didn't read the whole manual..." Needless to say, he never wrote another article for us. But consumers have to take the blame for some of this because they want reviews to be timely. It's true that some magazines write "reviews" based on going to a company or trade show and seeing a prototype. EM's policy is to review shipping products, but that means reviews come out later than other magazines. Then instead of people complaining about the quality of the review, they complain that it came out later than everyone else. Finally, I don't believe the point of any review I write is whether I like something or not. The point is to describe the product with such accuracy that the reader can feel like they've experienced using it, and then decide whether it's something they want to check out further or not. Reviewing programs with trial versions are the best, because they I can stick with describing the gestalt of the program; the reader can download the trial and get a real sense of whether it will work for them or not.
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