bayoubill
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Question about the Nashville Number symbol
What does the figure ( 1/3 ) in a progression mean? I saw this and it was used like this; 1 6 2 5x7 then (2 1/3 ) Thanks for any help!
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Re:Question about the Nashville Number symbol
2012/12/10 21:44:50
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bayoubill What does the figure ( 1/3 ) in a progression mean? I saw this and it was used like this; 1 6 2 5x7 then (2 1/3 ) Thanks for any help! Is it like if you are in the key of C the same as writing, D C/E or regardless of key II I/III?
post edited by Jonbouy - 2012/12/10 21:46:20
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Re:Question about the Nashville Number symbol
2012/12/10 21:46:33
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I would assume it would be a "slash chord" with the 3rd in the bass. in other words, if 1 = C then 1/3 would be C/E, and in other words than that, 1st inversion of the C chord.
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Re:Question about the Nashville Number symbol
2012/12/10 22:00:33
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Sounds to me like I'm supposed to do the 1 6 2 5 seven times followed by a measure on the 2 and then a measure split between the 1 & 3. The main bit seven times followed by a turn around 2 measures long using three chords. There's got to be a producer around here some place.
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Re:Question about the Nashville Number symbol
2012/12/10 22:02:51
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So yeah in C again the whole progression would be. C A D G7 (D C/E) the brackets meaning the same bar. John the x7 means dominant 7th.
post edited by Jonbouy - 2012/12/10 22:04:49
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Re:Question about the Nashville Number symbol
2012/12/10 22:04:18
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Re:Question about the Nashville Number symbol
2012/12/10 22:27:16
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Fantastic! THANKS! I just got a call from one of those bass players and he uses the Nashville system on a lot of his stuff. I know he wants me to be able to read some charts for an album he has in the works and just in case I figure I better know. Unfortunately I Am not doing the album but he promised to send me a copy so I can learn the tunes. P. S. he promised to send me a copy so I can learn the tunes ..you how that goes but i figure any excuse to play my guitar!
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Re:Question about the Nashville Number symbol
2012/12/10 22:29:20
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I think he's missed a chord off the end. I need a resolution to that progression.
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Re:Question about the Nashville Number symbol
2012/12/10 22:35:10
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It's the amount of time you can reasonably expect the drummer to be on time (with 1/3 of the time being behind the beat and the remaining 1/3 being ahead of it). HTH.
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Re:Question about the Nashville Number symbol
2012/12/10 22:47:41
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craigb It's the amount of time you can reasonably expect the drummer to be on time (with 1/3 of the time being behind the beat and the remaining 1/3 being ahead of it). HTH. Actually it's funny you should say that but the only reason I'm a bit familiar with the notation style at all is because it gets used quite a bit where people like me are notationally challenged. In a situation where nobody has the time to write down fancy charts and chord symbols it's really easy to quickly write down some changes that everyone quickly gets, (including the drummer) so you'll get some amendments to a score someone will give you a piece of paper with the changes on then it's easier to say come in for 12 bars on the 2nd 5 for example. Of course those who know what they are doing, unlike myself, can transpose easily too without needing to re-write anything. It can be a real time-saver when time is money or you've only met some players half an hour before you are due to play and they want to do a few things differently. It can make it seem like you actually know what's going on...
post edited by Jonbouy - 2012/12/10 22:50:31
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Re:Question about the Nashville Number symbol
2012/12/10 23:53:11
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I was expecting an E/C but a C/E(1/3) looks and sounds too out of key. C Am D G7 then D to E/C but C/E? So looks like its D 4 beats then C 2 beats then E 2 beats.
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Re:Question about the Nashville Number symbol
2012/12/11 00:16:56
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bayoubill I was expecting an E/C but a C/E(1/3) looks and sounds too out of key. C Am D G7 then D to E/C but C/E? So looks like its D 4 beats then C 2 beats then E 2 beats. Thing is normally the divisor signifies a slash chord, or rather but no two people write nashville notation the exact same way. However 1/3 would be pretty universal and hard to think of as anything but I/III or C/E in C. The same thing struck me when I said it didn't seem to resolve with the C/E I thought there must be a chord missing off the end or it was just jazz. I'd check with your bass playing buddy to make sure, you might just be meant to be playing a straight E or C and his part is supplying the inversion an octave down or summat. Who knows? You know what them bass players are like! But the two beat thing you are saying would show up like this (2 - 1 3) so he's either put '/' that in by mistake or that ain't it. It would be more likely that he's playing that E note over your C chord on the 5th beat of that bar (assuming 8ths and the key of C again). Here I just googled this it might make more sense to you than me. You will also find poly chord notation used. If you want to use the common 5 chord over the 1 chord you will see something like this: 1 5/1 4/1 5/1 The "/" is used to indicate a different bass note from the root of the chord. A few common non-root bass notes are: 1 1/3 4 4/6 5 5/7 1 5 It seems difficult to convey when you are all in different places across the world but if the three of us were in the same room it would take two seconds to sort out and we'd all know what it meant thereafter.
post edited by Jonbouy - 2012/12/11 00:47:06
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Re:Question about the Nashville Number symbol
2012/12/11 08:10:59
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You know what them bass players are like! AND HOW! Wouldn't you know it. I spend all this time learning to read notation(keep in mind I AM a guitar player) and the first thing put on my stand looks like algebra Thanks Jonbouy! Lucky I have Alfred R Newman ears and just play the parts by ear. Whilst the vocalist and Bass player are working things out I have time to play the right notes.
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Re:Question about the Nashville Number symbol
2012/12/11 08:18:47
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Exactly! As I said, as a system it works great for drummers, bassists and other riff-raff, proper muso's of a great calibre such as yourself might have a bit of trouble with it though... Seriously though Bill it will take you half an hour max to get familiar with it, most of what it's about has been covered in this thread already. It's much easier to read than the similar III I V II system as sometimes all those 'I''s can give you double vision. Also it's even worse if you already do have double vision.
post edited by Jonbouy - 2012/12/11 08:28:21
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Re:Question about the Nashville Number symbol
2012/12/11 12:04:45
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Jonbouy It's much easier to read than the similar III I V II system as sometimes all those 'I''s can give you double vision. Also it's even worse if you already do have double vision. Would that make it a stereo mess mix?
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Re:Question about the Nashville Number symbol
2012/12/11 18:06:05
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craigb Jonbouy It's much easier to read than the similar III I V II system as sometimes all those 'I''s can give you double vision. Also it's even worse if you already do have double vision. Would that make it a stereo mess mix? Mooch could tell you.
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Re:Question about the Nashville Number symbol
2012/12/11 19:05:37
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The way I learned it in the notation 1/3 in the key of C would indeed mean a C chord with an E in the bass...and in a 1 6minor 4 5 pattern as above I don't see what would be out of tune about that...more like a slow "walk" to the 4...in this case F. PS just for clarity...that's an E note...not an E chord. That would be dissonant indeed.
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Re:Question about the Nashville Number symbol
2012/12/11 19:35:09
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Zactly! It would be more likely that he's playing that E note over your C chord on the 5th beat of that bar (assuming 8ths and the key of C again).
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