djwayne
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Anybody know how many records are released each week ? I heard around 18,000..
sounds like a lot and anything I would release would be buried.... any thoughts ??
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Linear Phase
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Re:Anybody know how many records are released each week ? I heard around 18,000..
2012/12/12 20:31:12
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ya bud, "c'est la vie," as we like to say
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Re:Anybody know how many records are released each week ? I heard around 18,000..
2012/12/12 21:40:08
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18,000? No wonder I can't keep up! Oh well, only two or three are probably worth listening to anyway.
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Re:Anybody know how many records are released each week ? I heard around 18,000..
2012/12/12 22:34:25
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I've read similar reports. So yes, if you round up all the distributors reports then I guess that figure would be about right! Competition has always been very fierce in the music business and as the Internet bloomed and technology advances the music scene became even-more over-saturated. I also agree for most bands their releases usually gets buried especially by the heavy weights in the business! Keep on writing and recording; keep it fun; laugh/joke when sh#t happens (laughter is good for the soul) and last of all; never, ever give up; There is still hope for unknown independent artists on a low budget; Clever marketing strategies; live performances help; careful planning (usually at least several months in advance) targeting (finding the right audience (unexpectedly; usually friends of friends of friends lol), all that and having connections is the key. Sure enough though; this all takes a lot of time and effort! Oh and try not to stir-up any negativity (bite ya' tongue lol) because that can do way more harm than good especially in this business! Good luck and have fun {sigh} Come on man get cracking {big sigh} We need this all done tomorrow {arghhhhhh}
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Re:Anybody know how many records are released each week ? I heard around 18,000..
2012/12/13 00:38:19
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Yeah. Heck, Public Enemy was just voted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame and I (with over 100,000 songs in my library) had never even heard of them!
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Re:Anybody know how many records are released each week ? I heard around 18,000..
2012/12/13 01:51:27
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Competition has always been very fierce in the music business and as the Internet bloomed and technology advances the music scene became even-more over-saturated. I also agree for most bands their releases usually gets buried especially by the heavy weights in the business! Speaking of the entertainment industry... I had just read an old article about some movie planned to be produced - it listed a cost of $150 million. Hmm, yeah, par for the big-feature course, I had thought. The comes the studio money guy and he axes it because the director insists on an 'R' rating to do it proper. Here's the kicker, money-bags then goes on to say that he'd need to make $500 million just to break even with all his marketing costs. So, I'm supposed to believe that it costs more than twice as much to sell the damn thing than it is to make it to begin with? I always thought a good product needs little sales pitch. Of course, it's not that simple in reality, but what a waste of cash here.
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Re:Anybody know how many records are released each week ? I heard around 18,000..
2012/12/13 02:20:40
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SuperG I always thought a good product needs little sales pitch. I know I've, "said this before," but I've got the numbers swirling in my head, and I think for a cool $150,000.. I could break a band. In contrast, "Taylor Swifts," marketing budget is a $1,000,000 a song. Edit = I've got this figured out, "all in my head," except for, "funding." You can't go to a bank, and borrow a $150,000 and be like, "yep, I makin Rock Stars." The banker will be all, "Yeah dude." We only do home and car. Edit again = I'll say this, "the last place, I expect to see any profit whatsoever is: In the actual sale of recorded music. Recorded music is just a vehicle... Its like, "the printer." When what you really want to sell is, "the cartridge."
post edited by Linear Phase - 2012/12/13 02:26:32
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Re:Anybody know how many records are released each week ? I heard around 18,000..
2012/12/13 02:34:05
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Next up, the Cartridge Family!
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Re:Anybody know how many records are released each week ? I heard around 18,000..
2012/12/13 03:23:50
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SuperG So, I'm supposed to believe that it costs more than twice as much to sell the damn thing than it is to make it to begin with? I always thought a good product needs little sales pitch. Of course, it's not that simple in reality, but what a waste of cash here. When Gnarls Barkley became the first one to sell gold (or was it platinum...) with download distribution in the UK, all the kids were "Yeah, me too, you see, it's possible!! Just put the song in the net and up you go!!". They did not come to think of the tens of thousands of pounds invsted in marketing that product. Big ads in music magazines etc.
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Re:Anybody know how many records are released each week ? I heard around 18,000..
2012/12/13 03:47:04
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Kalle Rantaaho SuperG So, I'm supposed to believe that it costs more than twice as much to sell the damn thing than it is to make it to begin with? I always thought a good product needs little sales pitch. Of course, it's not that simple in reality, but what a waste of cash here. When Gnarls Barkley became the first one to sell gold (or was it platinum...) with download distribution in the UK, all the kids were "Yeah, me too, you see, it's possible!! Just put the song in the net and up you go!!". They did not come to think of the tens of thousands of pounds invsted in marketing that product. Big ads in music magazines etc. I hear you. But i do think that marketing, although necessary, punches way above it's weight, financially. This is true even in my industry, which is electronics manufacturing. The ratio of engineering and manufacturing costs compared to marketing and sales is outrageous. Here's an example, say I sell a gold record at 10 pounds a pop. That's ten million bucks. If I spend tens of thousands of pounds marketing it, that's a bargain in the low single digits percentage wise. Now imagine I told you that I spent 7.5 million pounds just to market that record. We've gone from a few percent to 75 percent. You'd expect that the cost of distribution dropping dramatically would affect sales and make music less expensive and more even popular. The popularity is there for some artists, but they aren't getting any break. It's just more money in the pocket for the distributors.
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Re:Anybody know how many records are released each week ? I heard around 18,000..
2012/12/13 07:35:49
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craigb Yeah. Heck, Public Enemy was just voted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame and I (with over 100,000 songs in my library) had never even heard of them! You prog boys need to get out more often. :-) BTW, Chuck D's main man was, and may still be, a SONAR user and used to do some of the best start to finish presentations.
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Re:Anybody know how many records are released each week ? I heard around 18,000..
2012/12/13 08:01:25
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18,000 each week...pfft. Bapu and his pseudonyms regularly contribute more than that to the songs forum in a 24 hour period.
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Re:Anybody know how many records are released each week ? I heard around 18,000..
2012/12/13 08:17:17
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mike_mccue You prog boys need to get out more often. :-) BTW, Chuck D's main man was, and may still be, a SONAR user and used to do some of the best start to finish presentations. Word! McQ is down wit' da 'hood. I'm sure he regularly does the twist to all their catchy toe-tappers.
post edited by Jonbouy - 2012/12/13 08:19:10
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Re:Anybody know how many records are released each week ? I heard around 18,000..
2012/12/13 08:21:02
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Re:Anybody know how many records are released each week ? I heard around 18,000..
2012/12/13 08:25:19
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mike_mccue I like music. Who among us hasn't had that thought before? It's a curse.
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Re:Anybody know how many records are released each week ? I heard around 18,000..
2012/12/13 09:23:48
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Re:Anybody know how many records are released each week ? I heard around 18,000..
2012/12/13 09:33:12
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So, it would take about 6 radio stations sharing the load, running 24/7, playing each song once... just to air them all once. That is assuming 3 minute songs. I guess that would still translate into longer songs because of CD capacity... but if they were released on DVD... all bets are off. So it is impossible to listen to all the new music coming out, factor in all the music that has already been recorded and my brain can't even think about it. I'm sure it also makes it impossible to write or record anything that hasn't been done before, probably done in the last month at that. It is really crazy. I wonder what the number was in 1962... 50 years ago. J
post edited by jbow - 2012/12/13 09:37:39
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Re:Anybody know how many records are released each week ? I heard around 18,000..
2012/12/13 09:41:17
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Now that you put it that way, Yoko is starting to make more sense.
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Re:Anybody know how many records are released each week ? I heard around 18,000..
2012/12/13 16:05:40
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Precisely the reason I don't bother to record a CD.
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Re:Anybody know how many records are released each week ? I heard around 18,000..
2012/12/14 12:10:13
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djwayne sounds like a lot and anything I would release would be buried.... any thoughts ?? It's probably less than that ... but anyone stating that, is likely to be a record company pundit, scaring people into not doing it, as it raises their averages and chances to make money! Good ... !!!! When it reaches 30k, let me know and I will put mine out ... before the CHB does! Learned one thing in the restaurant business that works good here. I was in the empty corner of the mall in Vancouver (JM Plaza) and there were 3 empty stores, on one side and a dentist and a loan office on the other side. Needless to say, folks didn't exactly park here! So, I'm talking to one of the big name wigs (a bit of a jerk, but he was good, so no worries!) and he said ... I'll take that spot over there and will have you beat within 30 days ... I said ... c'mon ... let's do it! He never did, of course, but he did say ... it has to be about you and your work, not what someone else did ... which is what I was always about, and what made it for me in the restaurant business in management. The place was fun, congenial and the food was good and handled properly. And I never, ever, had a rating under 90% with the Health Inspactors in Oregon or Washington, which tells you the attention to detail, and keeping the place clean was important. So if you know who you are ... I'm pretty sure you will be worried about some competition, when the only audience that you want to satisfy and make it work better, is yourself! After that, if the fans come and buy, it's all a bonus, and you can say ... thanks ... thanks ... as many times as you want!
post edited by Moshkiae - 2012/12/14 12:47:57
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Re:Anybody know how many records are released each week ? I heard around 18,000..
2012/12/14 17:57:37
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Re:Anybody know how many records are released each week ? I heard around 18,000..
2012/12/15 20:41:14
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Jonbouy 18,000 each week...pfft. Bapu and his pseudonyms regularly contribute more than that to the songs forum in a 24 hour period. I smell a challenge in there somewhere.
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Re:Anybody know how many records are released each week ? I heard around 18,000..
2012/12/15 20:59:57
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bapu Jonbouy 18,000 each week...pfft. Bapu and his pseudonyms regularly contribute more than that to the songs forum in a 24 hour period. I smell a challenge in there somewhere. I smell an upgrade to NagBap coming!
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