Ice Cream Truck Music

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2012/12/17 21:31:49 (permalink)

Ice Cream Truck Music

What effect(s) might you put on something to make it sound like an ice cream truck...?  I'm having a hard time finding a patch or sample that is close.  I've tried it with both 'the entertainer' and also just making up a little ditty.
 
So far I've gotten up a music box sample... added some pitch bend here and there to emulate the dopler effect, and then double tracked it panned hard left/right and pitch shifted one track down 25 cents to give it a nice out-of-tune effect.  Wondering if anyone has any other ideas.....??
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    RobertB
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    Re:Ice Cream Truck Music 2012/12/17 21:58:35 (permalink)
    Hmm. Interesting.
    You might also try a glockenspiel or xylophone sound. They always seem to overdrive the speakers, so maybe run that through an amp sim with a little distortion.
    Roll off high and low. Those trucks usually have really bad speakers with nothing but midrange.
    Maybe a delay and/or some healthy reverb.
    I'd like to hear what you come up with. This could be fun.


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    Re:Ice Cream Truck Music 2012/12/17 22:15:52 (permalink)
    Hmmm... will try that.  I'll post before and after versions with the overdrive and EQ.  I'm still trying to either write a song or find something to use.  I was using 'music box dancer' because that's what the ice cream truck by my house uses but I just looked it up and it looks like that song isn't in the public domain.  Is that possible?  I figured it had been around forever... especially with the ice cream trucks using it and I'm sure they're not paying royalties...
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    Re:Ice Cream Truck Music 2012/12/17 22:38:07 (permalink)

    Check out these links.

    http://www.kvraudio.com/f.um/viewtopic.php?t=93499

    https://soundcloud.com/th.gstocome/ice-cream-truck 
     
    You might try RMix to narrow the frequency range or use the Cakewalk AliasFactor plug-in to give it a real Lo-Fi sound.  


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    Re:Ice Cream Truck Music 2012/12/17 22:42:53 (permalink)
    I ended up using Joplin's "The Cascades" because it sounded right.

    Taking your advice, here is a mix with the top and bottom rolled off and a small amount of distortion:

    http://www.koskenmaki.com/icecreamdist.mp3

    The original mix was way too bright so this helped a lot.  I like that one the best but here's another one I liked using only Magma's "radio filtered overdrive":

    http://www.koskenmaki.com/icecreamfilter.mp3

    Anyway I'm still open to any and all suggestions.  Thanks!
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    Re:Ice Cream Truck Music 2012/12/18 11:40:52 (permalink)
    It's still to hi fi,, needs some trashing, I'd almost be tempted to go down to Home Depot and ask them if you can borrow a PA horn from the outside yard for a few hours,,, that would nail it. 

    I'd put some amp sim on it and using a Para EQ Kill all but the MId range and narrow the bandwidth Q and sweep the EQ until it sounds right. 

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    Re:Ice Cream Truck Music 2012/12/18 15:12:59 (permalink)
    What an interesting project!

    I agree with Johnny - it wants trashing with EQ, distortion and a fair bit more pitch variation

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    Re:Ice Cream Truck Music 2012/12/18 19:18:59 (permalink)
    http://www.2shared.com/au..._Cream_Truck_Song.html



    Check out the Utube selections, people have even composed songs. 

    The sound seem generated by a greeting card style synth. 

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    Re:Ice Cream Truck Music 2012/12/18 20:45:48 (permalink)
    I'd approach it as the Telephone Effect. The Sonitus EQ has a Telephone preset that will get you in the ballpark. Add a distortion plugin after and you should be there. I've used Guitar Rig for that, but any of the free distortion/amp sim plugins (e.g. CamelCrusher) will do. Any piano patch ought to work, but I'd also try a Wurlitzer or RMI electric piano patch if you have them available.


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    Re:Ice Cream Truck Music 2012/12/18 21:34:01 (permalink)
    The sound is more a 2 bit synth that is trying to sound like a piano sound. This will work -
     

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    Re:Ice Cream Truck Music 2012/12/18 22:42:16 (permalink)
    Wow, cool ideas thanks for the input.  Bitflipper: the Sonitus telephone EQ is the one I used on the above link that I posted (top one) and then I ran it through a mild Magma distortion effect.  I could probably use more distortion, I'm also still working on the song and tempo and sound (patch).  I think the effects are working but I still haven't found a sound I'm thrilled with.  I'm amazed that I have like 30,000+ patches on synths/samples and I don't have one labeled 'ice cream' truck.  Kidding, sort of.

    I should have specified, because it makes a big difference.  This isn't for a source track... i.e. I'm not trying to perfectly recreate the sound of an ice cream truck.  This is for a stupid reality tv challenge where the contestants have to make ice cream and the producers want the sound of an ice cream truck over top of it.

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    Re:Ice Cream Truck Music 2012/12/18 23:26:16 (permalink)
    I'm with you, Matt. I like the first one better.
    As the others mentioned, still a little too clean.
    Narrow the EQ even more, a bit more distortion, and lots more reverb to put it down the street.
    Maybe add a verrry slow flanger to get that doppler effect?
    If I were the producer, I would probably want the effect of the truck in the neighborhood, not in my living room.
    Know what I mean?
    I think you are pretty good on the context, and really close to nailing the sound.

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    Re:Ice Cream Truck Music 2012/12/19 11:30:06 (permalink)
    One question. Are you using this for a music project or foley work. I'm missing the sound of the truck's engine if it's for sound effects. Even at that, it may help to put a truck or car engine running on another track to help zero in on what you remember the ice cream truck sounding like. Just a suggestion. Otherwise, I agree that you are very close to what I remember.

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    Re:Ice Cream Truck Music 2012/12/19 12:33:23 (permalink)
    No Foley, No FX.  Here's one I added your suggestions... less high end, more distortion, a bit of reverb.  A little too much distortion for my taste I think... particularily for television speakers.  But closer?

    http://www.koskenmaki.com/icecreamrev.mp3


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    Re:Ice Cream Truck Music 2012/12/19 13:32:45 (permalink)
    That sounds pretty good on my laptop speakers.
    True, it's more distortion than we would normally want to hear, but about right for an ice cream truck.
    Those guys always over drive that poor speaker.

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