rcrees
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Do I really need to upgrade to Windows 8?
Sorry if this has been addressed already... If my Windows 7 system is working great with X2 and all my devices, why would I upgrade? Are the benefits worth the chance of breaking something that "aint broke"?
Thanks for any input.
Merry Christmas!
Rob
http://www.rcreesmusic.com Dell XPS 8300, Intel Core i7, 8gigs ram, AMD Radeon 6670, Two SATA II 500gig hard drives, one 250gig external USB drive, Focusrite Scarlett 2i2, M-Audio Keystation 61es, Windows 7 Home Premium, SONAR X3 Producer, many sample libraries including EastWest PLAYx64 Gold Complete, RA, Stormdrum and Choirs
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Re:Do I really need to upgrade to Windows 8?
2012/12/24 18:49:10
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There's no need to upgrade unless you want access to the touch screen features of SONAR. Otherwise, it works the same in 7 as it does in 8. If you plan to upgrade to 8 any time soon though, be sure to do it before the end of January because right now it's going for a good discount ($40). After that it almost triples in price. Scott -- Scott R. Garrigus - http://garrigus.com * Author of the Cakewalk Sonar and Sony Sound Forge Power book series: http://garrigus.com/?PowerBooks * Author of the Cakewalk Sonar ProAudioTutor video tutorial series: http://garrigus.com/?ProAudioTutor * Publisher of the DigiFreq free music technology newsletter: http://digifreq.com/?DigiFreq * Publisher of the NewTechReview free consumer technology newsletter: http://newtechreview.com/?NewTechReview
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jm24
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Re:Do I really need to upgrade to Windows 8?
2012/12/24 18:52:49
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Lots of reasons to upgrade:
including
better core management
speed improvements
X2 bits and pieces.
current upgrade price is ~~42.50
stupid start menu/wall
Lots not:
no time to learn/configure
don't wanna
only computer and in middle of big job,...
favorite programs will not work ith 8
stupid start menu/wall
Best approach:
use external disk to create disk image
partition the OS disk
install w8 to new partition: now you have a dual boot computer
add programs, drivers,.... as you have time
continue testing until satisfied all is well
use 8 all the time
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John
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Re:Do I really need to upgrade to Windows 8?
2012/12/24 19:34:30
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My view is no you don't need to upgrade. Windows 7 is just fine. Windows 8 is better and if you want touch its a good reason to do so. Otherwise its not mandated.
I went to Windows 8 only because I was on Vista. I am very glad I did upgrade but I don't think I would be as happy going from Windows 7.
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jbow
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Re:Do I really need to upgrade to Windows 8?
2012/12/24 19:41:32
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If you plan to upgrade to 8 any time soon though, be sure to do it before the end of January because right now it's going for a good discount ($40). After that it almost triples in price. Can I get W8 while keeping W7? I'd like to get W8 but I do not want to do away with W7. I'd like to have a choice to use it or not use it. I'll do a little looking around... I guess I would like to have W8 in a boxed package so I can use it when I get ready. I am not ready to migrate because of drivers... still, if I can get it for 40 bucks now that would be cool. I'll check your site. Thanks! J
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aka
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Re:Do I really need to upgrade to Windows 8?
2012/12/24 19:54:19
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20 minutes with win8 will make you wonder why you ever bothered with win7.
It's faster, more stable, manages memory better, looks nicer etc etc
Win8 is a really big jump in performance from 7 on a decent machine
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aka
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Re:Do I really need to upgrade to Windows 8?
2012/12/24 19:56:18
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jbow
If you plan to upgrade to 8 any time soon though, be sure to do it before the end of January because right now it's going for a good discount ($40). After that it almost triples in price.
Can I get W8 while keeping W7? I'd like to get W8 but I do not want to do away with W7. I'd like to have a choice to use it or not use it. I'll do a little looking around... I guess I would like to have W8 in a boxed package so I can use it when I get ready. I am not ready to migrate because of drivers... still, if I can get it for 40 bucks now that would be cool.
I'll check your site.
Thanks!
J
you don't need to get a boxed version. Buy the online upgrade, run through the download process and the last stage gives youthe option to save it as an iso file which you can then burn to disk. You can also use this disk to perform a clean install :)
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jbow
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Re:Do I really need to upgrade to Windows 8?
2012/12/24 20:37:07
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cecelius2
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Re:Do I really need to upgrade to Windows 8?
2012/12/24 20:48:38
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Does the upgrade know if you are 64bit? I have Win7 64bit and when I went to the Windows site, I did not see a 64bit upgrade. All I saw was a link to download the Windows 8 Pro update for $39.xx. Does it automatically know your version and correctly upgrade you to 64 bit?
I was not going to upgrade becuase I have my system working perfectly. But, for $39 it is worth considering.
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jm24
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Re:Do I really need to upgrade to Windows 8?
2012/12/24 21:11:42
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cecelius2
Does the upgrade know if you are 64bit? I have Win7 64bit and when I went to the Windows site, I did not see a 64bit upgrade. All I saw was a link to download the Windows 8 Pro update for $39.xx. Does it automatically know your version and correctly upgrade you to 64 bit?
I was not going to upgrade becuase I have my system working perfectly. But, for $39 it is worth considering.
The upgrade wizzer will NOT allow an alternate bit depth. Create new partition,.....
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stratman70
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Re:Do I really need to upgrade to Windows 8?
2012/12/24 22:30:40
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One more edit: The official release of Win8 was OCt 26th-That is LESS than 2 months, for MS windows???? And already it's the best thing ever??? FWIW, I found many more negative reports than positive-So I will wait..............YMMV . I may install it on my new laptop just to do some tests. EDITED: I had pasted the whole page in here but decided to just let you folks do what you will. Do your own searches though, See for yourself-That's what I did and was amazed. I'll stick with Win 7x64 for now. Just MHO Not trying to start an argument I just think the OP should hear both sides of the coin. He did ask.
post edited by stratman70 - 2012/12/24 22:48:52
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Re:Do I really need to upgrade to Windows 8?
2012/12/24 23:03:19
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, but................... FWIW, I found many more negative reports than positive-So I will wait..............YMMV . I may install it on my new laptop just to do some tests.
EDITED: I had pasted the whole page in here but decided to just let you folks do what you will.
Do your own searches though, See for yourself-That's what I did and was amazed. I'll stick with Win 7x64 for now. Just MHO
I would take negative reviews with a grain of salt. Most reviews I have read are based on first impressions that lack insight into just what Windows 8 offers. Most are stuck on the Start screen and metro apps. This kind of review is superficial at best and misleading at worst. Perhaps you haven't noticed the postings here on this forum about Windows 8. I think you would be hard pressed to find a really negative post from an actual user. What I have seen is a general consensus that it is even better than Windows 7. I can't comment on that aspect myself but I trust those that have made the comparison. Further I have read everything Noel has written on the subject that is meant for us to read. My conclusion is that he is very much in favor of Win 8. He has offered insightful reasons why too. There is no rush but thinking that its too early is a foolish notion. Windows 8 has already been well tested for over the greater part of 2 years. It was offered for anyone to try out and report back. Different versions were tested thoroughly. The version available at this writing is a solid stable and great OS. By waiting all one does is postpone having a really good time with a great OS. This is not like it use to be with early adopters but just the opposite where we are the beneficiaries of all the time it was tested by the public. They were the early adopters. I was among them. Clearly you will do what you will do but your reasoning for not upgrading is flawed. Nor should others think it is sound.
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stratman70
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Re:Do I really need to upgrade to Windows 8?
2012/12/24 23:50:51
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John
stratman70
, but................... FWIW, I found many more negative reports than positive-So I will wait..............YMMV . I may install it on my new laptop just to do some tests.
EDITED: I had pasted the whole page in here but decided to just let you folks do what you will.
Do your own searches though, See for yourself-That's what I did and was amazed. I'll stick with Win 7x64 for now. Just MHO
I would take negative reviews with a grain of salt. Most reviews I have read are based on first impressions that lack insight into just what Windows 8 offers. Most are stuck on the Start screen and metro apps. This kind of review is superficial at best and misleading at worst.
Perhaps you haven't noticed the postings here on this forum about Windows 8. I think you would be hard pressed to find a really negative post from an actual user. What I have seen is a general consensus that it is even better than Windows 7. I can't comment on that aspect myself but I trust those that have made the comparison. Further I have read everything Noel has written on the subject that is meant for us to read. My conclusion is that he is very much in favor of Win 8. He has offered insightful reasons why too.
There is no rush but thinking that its too early is a foolish notion. Windows 8 has already been well tested for over the greater part of 2 years. It was offered for anyone to try out and report back. Different versions were tested thoroughly. The version available at this writing is a solid stable and great OS.
By waiting all one does is postpone having a really good time with a great OS. This is not like it use to be with early adopters but just the opposite where we are the beneficiaries of all the time it was tested by the public. They were the early adopters. I was among them.
Clearly you will do what you will do but your reasoning for not upgrading is flawed. Nor should others think it is sound.
I toatally disagree. My logic is flawed? Wow, I would have expected better from you-Guess I just learned a sad lesson. How many daw users in the world John? How many would you say have gone to Win8? I would guess less than 1%. How many different configuarations do you think exist in the world of daw users? Quite the track record. I was only trying to give the OP a different opinion-so excuse the hell out of me Please don't bother with a response to me. I'd rather you didn't. My questions were meant to be answered. Very sad indeed
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cecelius2
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Re:Do I really need to upgrade to Windows 8?
2012/12/25 03:01:01
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jm24
cecelius2
Does the upgrade know if you are 64bit? I have Win7 64bit and when I went to the Windows site, I did not see a 64bit upgrade. All I saw was a link to download the Windows 8 Pro update for $39.xx. Does it automatically know your version and correctly upgrade you to 64 bit?
I was not going to upgrade becuase I have my system working perfectly. But, for $39 it is worth considering.
The upgrade wizzer will NOT allow an alternate bit depth.
Create new partition,.....
Thanks for this. I googled the update and the info I found confirms that the updater reads whether you have 32bit or 64bit and then updates the bit version you have. So thanks for helping me think through this.
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aka
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Re:Do I really need to upgrade to Windows 8?
2012/12/25 05:19:28
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stratman70
One more edit:
The official release of Win8 was OCt 26th-That is LESS than 2 months, for MS windows???? And already it's the best thing ever???
FWIW, I found many more negative reports than positive-So I will wait..............YMMV . I may install it on my new laptop just to do some tests.
EDITED: I had pasted the whole page in here but decided to just let you folks do what you will.
Do your own searches though, See for yourself-That's what I did and was amazed. I'll stick with Win 7x64 for now. Just MHO
Not trying to start an argument I just think the OP should hear both sides of the coin. He did ask.
I've used win7 for a while now since I upgraded from Vista, I found 7 to be less stable than Vista particularly when a lot of page/swap file activity is involved. I push my machine fairly hard (3D rendering as well as music) and had more problems with 7 than I ever had with Vista so in all honesty, I was quite pleased to see the back of it :) Win 8 is faster, not just a bit faster, a lot faster. for 3D stuff it's anything up to 30% faster and that saves me a lot of time when rendering animations. Stable? Yep, it doesn't fall over but you need to make a few tweaks to it if you are running on a desktop machine as everything is pretty much optimised for laptop users. Most of the negative stuff I've seen is from people that don't 'get it' and think that the win8 is all tiles and full page apps and obviously because it's so different. To get the best from it - try running it on dual monitors. That way you get to use/snap the 'metro' apps on one screen whilst using the other screen for other programs :) Installing Live mail restores pop mail and gets rid of the (awful) default mail app. You can remove superflous icons from the start menu by modifying the start menu folder etc etc Win8 is very, very good
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stratman70
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Re:Do I really need to upgrade to Windows 8?
2012/12/25 10:36:22
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No problem-Sorry to have intervened in the thread
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Re:Do I really need to upgrade to Windows 8?
2012/12/25 23:35:38
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One of the best features in Win8 is the storage pooling. Being able to mirror drives for back up so easily and natively is a godsend for audio production. I never have to think about backing up ever again.
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rcrees
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Re:Do I really need to upgrade to Windows 8?
2012/12/26 21:34:11
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I REALLY appreciate all the input everybody. I know there are different opinions, but I value them all. For me, I'm so happy with my system the way it is now, I think I'll stick with 7x64 for a while.
Thanks, All!
Rob
http://www.rcreesmusic.com Dell XPS 8300, Intel Core i7, 8gigs ram, AMD Radeon 6670, Two SATA II 500gig hard drives, one 250gig external USB drive, Focusrite Scarlett 2i2, M-Audio Keystation 61es, Windows 7 Home Premium, SONAR X3 Producer, many sample libraries including EastWest PLAYx64 Gold Complete, RA, Stormdrum and Choirs
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